Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!weretis.net!feeder1.news.weretis.net!feeder.erje.net!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed6.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.000 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 1.00; '*S*': 0.00; '21,': 0.07; 'c++,': 0.07; 'python': 0.09; '(written': 0.09; 'callback': 0.09; 'called.': 0.09; 'explicitely': 0.09; 'imported': 0.09; 'received:mail- vc0-f174.google.com': 0.09; 'thread,': 0.09; 'gui': 0.11; 'thread': 0.11; 'sat,': 0.15; '"your': 0.16; 'subject:import': 0.16; 'suggestion.': 0.16; 'thread.': 0.16; 'true:': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.17; 'instance': 0.17; 'module': 0.19; 'import': 0.21; 'driven': 0.22; 'subject:problem': 0.22; "user's": 0.22; 'bruce': 0.23; 'sets': 0.23; 'statement': 0.23; 'this:': 0.23; "i've": 0.23; 'second': 0.24; 'connected': 0.24; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.25; 'skip:" 20': 0.26; 'am,': 0.27; 'message- id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.27; 'fine': 0.28; 'initial': 0.28; 'environment': 0.29; 'cocoa': 0.29; 'invoke': 0.29; 'occurred': 0.29; 'received:209.85.220.174': 0.29; 'writes:': 0.29; 'skip:_ 10': 0.29; "i'm": 0.29; 'primary': 0.30; 'code': 0.31; 'mac': 0.32; 'running': 0.32; 'environment,': 0.33; 'to:addr:python- list': 0.33; 'received:google.com': 0.34; 'thanks': 0.34; 'received:209.85.220': 0.35; "won't": 0.35; 'received:209.85': 0.35; 'visual': 0.36; 'correctly': 0.37; 'execute': 0.37; 'skip:3 10': 0.37; 'usual': 0.37; 'received:209': 0.37; 'subject:: ': 0.38; 'mean': 0.38; 'sure': 0.38; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'header:Received:5': 0.40; 'situation': 0.62; 'more': 0.63; 'jul': 0.65; 'box,': 0.69; 'rendering': 0.71; '100': 0.78 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=FV6WAoPDRAjUTSZm/E2WZZJ07nnOSGryezqALkXeeOU=; b=b2Fuuji7kVAYtKV4xrsBONBFoMYC3ChzDcbRQQRY6HmuUU/kK0tlCUdP28lf0g4/or 7k6mczRaLyUlCnTN1UTQmhKhvX5hoM25kb61KaCyeyqI2l/a9y49tNuqc167HAH82KzJ 3gnzXrggeZ/e0TT6kPaACY8NMFzzxlF8yPnmDt+TxGyuO60GvS0xyOKk6G2nVeM/vSbi SwaWrAZ2+RbUadhsSc2iv7E/TL6SvYhLUe9rXFng0Um983tMb+MefY6Fmak5vnSKGCPh fYf0G77QCNsyGhPq8fcFfJELG/8Sufz1dkb/hzn7YJiUtOIgJqsAHbkn4c8kTcBtDAvk 0Z7g== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <87a9yt7bw6.fsf@handshake.de> References: <87a9yt7bw6.fsf@handshake.de> Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2012 08:54:53 -0600 Subject: Re: A thread import problem From: Bruce Sherwood To: python-list@python.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 43 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1342882496 news.xs4all.nl 6924 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:44159 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:25744 Thanks much for this suggestion. I'm not sure I've correctly understood the operation "start_new_thread(lambda: __import__(), ())". By "your module" do you mean the user program which imported the module that will execute start_new_thread? It hadn't occurred to me to have A import B and B import A, though now that you describe this (if that's indeed what you mean) it makes sense. The original instance of A won't get past its initial import statement because the main loop won't return to it. Bruce Sherwood On Sat, Jul 21, 2012 at 2:32 AM, Dieter Maurer wrote: > Bruce Sherwood writes: >> ... >> from visual import box, rate >> b = box() >> while True: >> rate(100) # no more than 100 iterations per second >> b.pos.x += .01 >> >> This works because a GUI environment is invoked by the visual module >> in a secondary thread (written mainly in C++, connected to Python by >> Boost). The OpenGL rendering of the box in its current position is >> driven by a 30-millisecond timer. This works fine with any environment >> other than Mac Cocoa. >> >> However, the Mac Cocoa GUI environment and interact loop are required >> to be the primary thread, so the challenge is to have the visual >> module set up the Cocoa environment, with the user's program running >> in a secondary thread. Any ideas? > > The usual approach to this situation is to invoke the user code via > a callback from the UI main loop or invoke it explicitely > after the UI system has been set up immediately before its main loop > is called. Might look somehow like this: > > main thread: > > from thread import start_new_thread > from visual import setup_gui, start_main_loop > setup_gui() # sets up the GUI subsystem > start_new_thread(lambda: __import__(), ()) > start_main_loop()