Path: csiph.com!x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net!usenet.pasdenom.info!gegeweb.org!de-l.enfer-du-nord.net!feeder2.enfer-du-nord.net!feeder.news-service.com!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed6.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.000 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 1.00; '*S*': 0.00; 'guido': 0.04; 'subject:Python': 0.06; 'terry': 0.07; 'python': 0.08; '3.x': 0.09; 'comparisons': 0.09; 'deprecated': 0.09; 'kelly': 0.09; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229.12': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; 'received:lo.gmane.org': 0.09; 'pm,': 0.10; '>>>': 0.12; 'broken': 0.14; 'wrote:': 0.14; '(excluding': 0.16; 'integer.': 0.16; 'permitted.': 0.16; 'rationale': 0.16; 'reedy': 0.16; 'sorting': 0.16; 'compatible': 0.16; 'before.': 0.19; 'jan': 0.20; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.21; 'seems': 0.21; 'wrote': 0.22; 'integer': 0.23; 'string': 0.26; 'fixed': 0.27; 'example': 0.27; 'ago': 0.31; 'print': 0.31; 'header:X-Complaints-To:1': 0.32; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.33; 'generally': 0.33; 'things': 0.33; 'there': 0.35; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.35; 'idea': 0.36; 'change': 0.37; 'another': 0.37; 'received:org': 0.38; 'subject:: ': 0.38; 'header:Mime-Version:1': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'allows': 0.40; 'more': 0.60; 'viewed': 0.82; '1/2': 0.84 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: python-list@python.org From: Terry Reedy Subject: Re: Comparison operators in Python Date: Thu, 02 Jun 2011 02:09:11 -0400 References: <0dda7cc8-e1c0-409d-b993-b8aec379f7bd@hd10g2000vbb.googlegroups.com> <62BFp.19321$pi2.14587@newsfe11.iad> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: rain.gmane.org User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.17) Gecko/20110414 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.10 In-Reply-To: <62BFp.19321$pi2.14587@newsfe11.iad> X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 23 NNTP-Posting-Host: 82.94.164.166 X-Trace: 1306994971 news.xs4all.nl 49177 [::ffff:82.94.164.166]:55789 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net comp.lang.python:6842 On 6/1/2011 8:44 PM, harrismh777 wrote: > Ian Kelly wrote: >> ?? wrote >>> integer. However comparison between a string and an integer seems to >>> be permitted. Is there any rationale behind this ? >> It allows things like sorting of heterogeneous lists. It's generally >> viewed as a wart, though, and it was fixed in Python 3: This was a Python 1.0 idea that Guido decided was more bug-inducing than useful. > Just another example (excluding print 1/2 and unicode) where 3.x seems > to be completely compatible with 2.x/ (tongue-in-cheek) Arbitrary comparisons were broken and effectively deprecated about a decade ago with the introduction of the complex type. Just another example where 3.x completes a process of change started years before. -- Terry Jan Reedy