Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!news.albasani.net!newsfeed.freenet.ag!news2.euro.net!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.017 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.97; '*S*': 0.00; 'subject:Python': 0.05; 'fixes': 0.05; 'python': 0.09; 'handling,': 0.09; 'whole.': 0.09; '~ethan~': 0.09; 'bug': 0.10; 'ignore': 0.13; '24,': 0.16; 'from:addr:rosuav': 0.16; 'from:name:chris angelico': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.17; 'fixed.': 0.17; 'unicode': 0.17; 'memory': 0.18; 'feb': 0.19; '3.2': 0.22; 'sorry,': 0.22; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.25; 'am,': 0.27; 'message-id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.27; 'improves': 0.29; 'summary': 0.29; "i'm": 0.29; "aren't": 0.33; 'him.': 0.33; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.33; 'received:google.com': 0.34; 'received:209.85': 0.35; 'but': 0.36; 'characters': 0.36; 'too': 0.36; 'received:209': 0.37; 'subject:: ': 0.38; 'there,': 0.38; 'performance': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'free': 0.61; 'more': 0.63; 'our': 0.65; 'importantly,': 0.65; 'overall': 0.66; '2013': 0.84; 'down!': 0.84; 'dramatically': 0.84; 'furman': 0.84; 'peter,': 0.84; 'ethan': 0.91 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=mFi981kFsxDA0KE9oqJ2gvrtsaKrA0viTlB1kWfddC4=; b=Wxk5yllvBaOnQWO7tuVV/sM/xFuoK9EFugj11Uh6Nkh0Ktx7HkcXoh+HEuZxsVqL7d X97aMY5h48cZoxvqXNiblXRW3iEqhmRqE+zy/H2MUVM+lQVnixaqASgwMXeJT3rO5v/+ FOvvum3y1zp69FrNeMTpzOC9+QfwjU0r3M49DKXgOdE3TA8QpN8WOpV8/2UX+JVzgauG +2x+nxlu6DanH0IKKpvRDsMk4cn0o4QXMTBNpNE14fhS/EzU1zPPSWjkFZvSRzqiEzB4 SNeKJ1vBUowjGl79A5+OKFkt5iD80F/kWbbVES95YZG9rA6PjAST4Tjcf+vtjsyAeRce FrEA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.220.149.200 with SMTP id u8mr7899031vcv.7.1361656112247; Sat, 23 Feb 2013 13:48:32 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <5127848B.1060004@gmail.com> <928d2cf7-728b-4f35-b8c9-4c9b958507e5@googlegroups.com> Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2013 08:48:32 +1100 Subject: Re: Python Newbie From: Chris Angelico To: python-list@python.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 27 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1361656114 news.xs4all.nl 6895 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:40783 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:39714 On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 7:53 AM, jmfauth wrote: > On 23 f=E9v, 20:08, Ethan Furman wrote: >> On 02/23/2013 10:44 AM, jmfauth wrote: >> >> [snip various stupidities] >> >> > jmf >> >> Peter, jmfauth is one of our resident trolls. Feel free to ignore him. >> >> -- >> ~Ethan~ > > Sorry, what can say? > More memory and slow down! > If you see a progress, I'm seeing a regression. Potted summary for those who aren't familiar with jmf's trolling: Python 3.2 had a major bug in its Unicode handling, meaning that non-BMP characters were mis-handled. Python 3.3 fixes these AND improves performance on the whole. The complaints are about *very* specific use-cases, and the overall string-handling benchmarks have dramatically improved; but more importantly, the bug is fixed. There, now you too can killfile him without loss. ChrisA