Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!news.albasani.net!newsfeed.freenet.ag!news2.euro.net!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.021 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.96; '*S*': 0.00; 'received:209.85.223': 0.03; 'commonly': 0.09; 'imply': 0.09; 'shame': 0.09; 'subject:language': 0.09; 'subject:python': 0.11; '"are': 0.16; '[and': 0.16; 'dropping': 0.16; 'least,': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.17; 'discussion': 0.20; 'fairly': 0.21; 'long,': 0.24; 'header:In- Reply-To:1': 0.25; 'question': 0.27; 'message-id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.27; 'subject:list': 0.28; '"do': 0.29; "d'aprano": 0.29; 'steven': 0.29; 'thinks': 0.29; 'initially': 0.30; 'anybody': 0.32; 'asked': 0.33; "he's": 0.33; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.33; 'received:google.com': 0.34; 'received:209.85': 0.35; 'there': 0.35; 'but': 0.36; 'october': 0.37; 'being': 0.37; 'why': 0.37; 'received:209': 0.37; 'subject:: ': 0.38; 'mean': 0.38; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'subject:-': 0.40; 'header:Received:5': 0.40; 'think': 0.40; 'genuine': 0.62; 'more': 0.63; 'reply': 0.66; 'disorder': 0.84; 'enquiry.': 0.84; 'offended': 0.84; 'grew': 0.91 X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:x-originating-ip:in-reply-to:references:from :date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type :x-gm-message-state; bh=KF6xIuX3po6Qr7NZaMivWbnwJlBU+hmPWaIzfzrvxBM=; b=Ns5N1JZKl7hcc/lAs/EDEtEbAHmdVNWmZo1iP0Ku+2VJUF3lEoU38mjQMZQWXSSK/b CkT0RWNJjNxkvSzgJQx+pUQdJrZ6PLUaO9rdUUxH4yroqBz+u5xmJdvlvMQj5DFdWB/B wULT8reKJiFfb1kBVAg9Cz5BYk/m8HMfuQmv9LrYrRbPO1Ck+F58UbQqKYz2Te61ue85 ain/SBjvWVBnNjnsBzPTHDmhdBhqLCerujEPPQNwfvRmWL5WctKuB3Na4AIAtSQvgMo3 Fufl5l6ezCHp46ev3bnyOPh7xQu8aX0s5F6htec5xxPxDHFQ/SvKofxCrkyGg1XGn5hW dc7Q== MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: z@etiol.net X-Originating-IP: [190.104.25.18] In-Reply-To: <507f3c6c$0$6599$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> References: <27cbf07c-60ac-41ac-a00f-dbe8edf45078@b9g2000pbc.googlegroups.com> <85099bc2-fa24-4cc5-bd94-3015b9af694f@googlegroups.com> <507d900e$0$6599$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <5a713407-d82f-4067-8ffa-6b8b66c1edf1@googlegroups.com> <507e1baf$0$6599$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <35b41895-45d9-4f2e-9285-2bb0c36fb2a6@googlegroups.com> <507f3c6c$0$6599$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> From: Zero Piraeus Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2012 19:51:49 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: wwmY2F5AoItrGXdTCc7rmjoI3FU Subject: Re: Aggressive language on python-list To: python-list@python.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQmsI6KVmiSb38TCaa1HaYtw3PN9cAnwzOAqKOdWY0fxSNvFcSYkjCEUGID8bt5E3fkVPnFM X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 23 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1350517932 news.xs4all.nl 6905 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:46225 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:31554 : On 17 October 2012 19:17, Steven D'Aprano wrote: [on Asperger's] > Excuse me, I think that anybody who was offended by it needs to take a > long, hard look at themselves. Would you be offended if Rurpy asked "Are > you diabetic?" There's no more shame in being Aspie than there is in > being diabetic, or allergic to wheat, or colour blind. In the culture in which I grew up, at least, dropping "do you have developmental disorder X"? into a fairly combative reply like the one under discussion would definitely be considered rude, not because there's any shame in having developmental disorder X, but because it's a plausible assumption that the questioner thinks there is [and that that's why they used the question as a retort]. I don't mean to imply that this was rurpy's intent [especially given that he's withdrawn the comment]. But to me it did initially feel more like "Are you blind?" than "Are you diabetic?" ... and the former is more commonly used as an insult than a genuine enquiry. -[]z.