Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!aioe.org!news.stack.nl!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed1.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.030 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.94; '*S*': 0.00; 'subject:Python': 0.06; 'string': 0.09; 'editor.': 0.09; 'pep': 0.09; 'python': 0.11; 'from:addr:rosuav': 0.16; 'from:name:chris angelico': 0.16; 'subject: \n ': 0.16; 'subject:Languages': 0.16; 'subject:user': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'comparing': 0.24; 'mon,': 0.24; 'header:In- Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'message-id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.30; 'bad.': 0.31; 'languages': 0.32; 'subject: (': 0.35; 'received:google.com': 0.35; 'complete.': 0.36; 'subject:New': 0.37; 'performance': 0.37; 'nov': 0.38; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.38; 'pm,': 0.38; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'even': 0.60; 'subject: / ': 0.60; 'new': 0.61; 'such': 0.63; 'fact,': 0.69; 'low': 0.83; '2013': 0.98 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=xSfKIDvbXtFkbUf+7uFrYAweVK9y/0QLVW6pm6orK/8=; b=McKtH0pCuAKhohrAuXqS4u34MrOuMhet4z/6gO3YBBvrieP1eXIVybgT1g+JTBCpgV ZNZwMJlt1wZrNjpQ0cDZwfVb9whdEtLYNJSq72clSQLJw8wqTZilBN0i4C453j+UJCe/ oQMfFIlnCq6A9cqYm5utzC+i2R1vG3+iJztoLozRyIy+RQZuM35J2+Zn0XFOZaFmSr+W ALOgghYcqYizRi6329WhnhhCClq7PVSGDP+rxL00gIF8e5VpgY0j70PxWZDmpsoB0NTG X5g90jEDcxaMBQI86PDA5N/wFFIDMoKn6gja95S2qjWPGDcSW7NGvspAJ1w2Sg2smcau LBjA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.66.25.239 with SMTP id f15mr5709142pag.136.1384163728843; Mon, 11 Nov 2013 01:55:28 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <70dcaa80-7502-4312-9d8b-652afdaaf0fb@googlegroups.com> References: <70dcaa80-7502-4312-9d8b-652afdaaf0fb@googlegroups.com> Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2013 20:55:28 +1100 Subject: Re: Languages for different purposes (was Re: New user's initial thoughts / criticisms of Python) From: Chris Angelico To: python-list@python.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 12 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1384163740 news.xs4all.nl 15928 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:50992 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:59058 On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 8:28 PM, wrote: >> * Some languages are just fundamentally bad. > > The flexible string representation is a perfect exemple. Wow. A new low for you, jmf... comparing PEP 393 to Ook?!? > In fact, with such a mechanism, it is even impossible to write an editor. And somehow a performance tradeoff makes Python no longer Turing complete. ChrisA