Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!weretis.net!feeder1.news.weretis.net!feeder4.news.weretis.net!feeds.phibee-telecom.net!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed2.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.002 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 1.00; '*S*': 0.00; 'programmer': 0.03; 'from:addr:yahoo.co.uk': 0.04; 'subject:code': 0.07; 'lawrence': 0.09; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; 'rewrite': 0.09; 'ruby,': 0.09; 'tismer': 0.09; 'python': 0.11; 'article.': 0.16; 'humor': 0.16; 'received:80.91.229.3': 0.16; 'received:plane.gmane.org': 0.16; 'exception': 0.16; 'language': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'trying': 0.19; 'examples': 0.20; 'written': 0.21; 'example': 0.22; 'programming': 0.22; 'saying': 0.22; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.23; 'second': 0.26; 'header:X-Complaints- To:1': 0.27; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'ease': 0.30; 'code': 0.31; "d'aprano": 0.31; 'steven': 0.31; 'anyone': 0.31; "i'd": 0.34; 'could': 0.34; 'johnson': 0.35; 'point.': 0.35; 'but': 0.35; 'christian': 0.38; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.38; 'does': 0.39; 'itself': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'received:org': 0.40; 'full': 0.61; 'new': 0.61; 'world.': 0.61; 'simply': 0.61; 'back': 0.62; 'save': 0.62; 'subject:The': 0.64; 'more': 0.64; 'linked': 0.65; 'due': 0.66; 'proves': 0.84; 'rick': 0.93; '2013': 0.98 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: python-list@python.org From: Mark Lawrence Subject: Re: The narcissism of small code differences Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2013 09:25:14 +0000 References: <527e2d9c$0$29972$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: host-92-24-212-102.ppp.as43234.net User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.1.0 In-Reply-To: X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 35 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1384161929 news.xs4all.nl 15997 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:32780 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:59052 I never thought I'd be saying this but welcome back Rick :) On 11/11/2013 06:50, Rick Johnson wrote: > On Saturday, November 9, 2013 6:42:04 AM UTC-6, Steven > D'Aprano wrote: >> Uses an example written in Ruby, but don't >> let that put you off: > > Why would it? I write Ruby code all the time. Ruby code in > and of itself does not bother me, what bothers me about Ruby > is the ease at which a programmer can write inconsistent and > convoluted code -- evidenced by the poor examples in your > linked article. Case in point. > > To save anyone else from reading this long-winded "blab > fest" chalk full the driest humor and "cyclic illogical > meandering" that could make a ferris-wheel blush with > jealousy... > > In a nutshell the author attempts to plead for the > "longevity" of "old code bases" simply on the basis of his > assertion that "old code bases" are "less buggy" and > contain more "wisdom" than their new brethren -- both of > which are absurd conclusions! > I recall that the demise of Netscape was due to them trying to completely rewrite code of this nature. The exception that proves the rule? -- Python is the second best programming language in the world. But the best has yet to be invented. Christian Tismer Mark Lawrence