Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!goblin2!goblin.stu.neva.ru!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed3.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.000 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 1.00; '*S*': 0.00; 'string.': 0.04; 'encoded': 0.05; 'subject:skip:s 10': 0.05; 'json': 0.07; 'mode:': 0.07; 'python': 0.09; 'encode': 0.09; 'non-ascii': 0.09; 'subject:version': 0.09; 'resulting': 0.13; 'result.': 0.15; '2.6:': 0.16; '24,': 0.16; 'ascii,': 0.16; 'covered,': 0.16; 'from:addr:rosuav': 0.16; 'from:name:chris angelico': 0.16; 'hmm.': 0.16; 'skip:j 30': 0.16; 'subject:simple': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.17; 'bytes': 0.17; 'unicode': 0.17; '>>>': 0.18; 'input': 0.18; 'feb': 0.19; 'mostly': 0.20; 'fairly': 0.21; 'fine,': 0.22; 'simpler': 0.22; "i'd": 0.22; '(i.e.,': 0.23; 'paul': 0.24; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.25; 'am,': 0.27; 'message- id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.27; 'types.': 0.29; 'use?': 0.29; 'convert': 0.29; "i'm": 0.29; "skip:' 10": 0.30; "skip:' 20": 0.32; 'could': 0.32; 'skip:s 30': 0.33; 'skip:j 20': 0.33; 'problem': 0.33; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.33; 'likely': 0.33; 'another': 0.33; 'received:google.com': 0.34; 'received:209.85': 0.35; 'something': 0.35; 'there': 0.35; 'but': 0.36; 'characters': 0.36; 'option': 0.37; 'received:209': 0.37; 'subject:: ': 0.38; 'sure': 0.38; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'subject:-': 0.40; 'skip:u 10': 0.60; "you'll": 0.62; 'between': 0.63; '2013': 0.84; 'inefficient': 0.91; 'subject:Good': 0.91 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=VInMBpp3yKEWdBfoevbLrEUC8x/kjswJZRHsJacdOlQ=; b=zyYz4P1g+BhA4BXVvtMQBhH9SfbQ3pePCiAINC+AP+QlEVbFKCUM7fdFUd/lHLIekX 6byIDsSW8DLagF64NbhgBYqUrVTaUAsBi9/WANpHFQliE1EZbG48DVw2f6uNfmq5aAlS SqmsY+QWLnJDN3AfYBezRb9ZcUtUdPzMsrxCff+Trm+UJ0YtOYTRamSUO7bSRYqDFA+4 MyBChxetlXiXYxpUUCuMpfgAR08yzvrT3TRDIvWxNpzDX9jk0qbLJCn6j9cVQ4sq1/jF ALDeqUX1KKTD3zcr7J/e/vWZtgIkiC4AwSMbqNyIX3mdx74KCgATX4O/9uAwGL1n1kmy 3IKg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.52.37.109 with SMTP id x13mr6829434vdj.10.1361635210098; Sat, 23 Feb 2013 08:00:10 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2013 03:00:10 +1100 Subject: Re: Good cross-version ASCII serialisation protocol for simple types From: Chris Angelico To: python-list@python.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 40 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1361635213 news.xs4all.nl 6947 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:60047 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:39678 On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 2:45 AM, Paul Moore wrote: > At the moment, I'm using > > encoded = json.dumps([ord(c) for c in json.dumps(obj)]) > decoded = json.loads(''.join([chr(n) for n in json.loads(encoded)])) > > The double-encoding ensures that non-ASCII characters don't make it into the result. > > This works fine, but is there something simpler (i.e., less of a hack!) that I could use? (Base64 and the like don't work because they encode bytes->strings, not strings->strings). Hmm. How likely is it that you'll have non-ASCII characters in the input? If they're fairly uncommon, you could use UTF-7 - it's fairly space-efficient when the input is mostly ASCII, but inefficient on other characters. Not sure what the problem is with bytes vs strings; you can always do an encode("ascii") or decode("ascii") to convert 7-bit strings between those types. With that covered, I'd just go with a single JSON packaging, and work with the resulting Unicode string. Python 2.6: >>> s=u"asdf\u1234zxcv" >>> s.encode("utf-7").decode("ascii") u'asdf+EjQ-zxcv' Python 3.3: >>> s=u"asdf\u1234zxcv" >>> s.encode("utf-7").decode("ascii") 'asdf+EjQ-zxcv' Another option would be to JSON-encode in pure-ASCII mode: >>> json.dumps([s],ensure_ascii=True) '["asdf\\u1234zxcv"]' Would that cover it? ChrisA