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Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 08:00:04 +1000
Subject: Re: Rant on web browsers
From: Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com>
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On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 12:11 AM, Patty <patty@cruzio.com> wrote:
> Hi Chris - I am just learning JavaScript and this was helpful to me, not =
a
> rant. =A0I am reading JavaScript: =A0The Good Parts so he is jumping arou=
nd in
> topic and I can just use this when learning about dates and ints coming u=
p.

Hehe. Just that it was helpful doesn't make it not-a-rant, but I'm
glad there was some value in it.

There's probably more value in people's offered suggestions than in my
original moan, though. I'm going to have to start looking into a few
of them; there's probably one that I can sell to my boss as "Hey, we
need this".

CoffeeScript looks interesting, but I'm somewhat worried that it's
only going to add its own restrictions on top of Javascript's,
changing syntax without really improving very much. It does look cool,
though. (But I disagree with it (and Python) on points such as
non-declared variables.) Since it's a new language (we don't use Ruby
here yet), I don't think I can justify it to my boss - any new
language would have to be learned by more people than just me. On the
flip side, I might play around with it for my own web site at some
point.

Thanks for the tips, all. This is what makes a good mailing list -
helpful people!

Chris Angelico