Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!weretis.net!feeder4.news.weretis.net!ecngs!feeder2.ecngs.de!newsfeed.freenet.ag!news2.euro.net!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.042 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.92; '*S*': 0.00; 'essentially': 0.04; 'list?': 0.07; 'used.': 0.07; 'python': 0.09; 'energy,': 0.09; 'indicates': 0.09; 'tends': 0.09; 'looked': 0.10; '"this': 0.13; '2.7': 0.13; '"does': 0.16; 'consume': 0.16; 'lower,': 0.16; 'to:addr:pearwood.info': 0.16; 'to:addr:steve+comp.lang.python': 0.16; "to:name:steven d'aprano": 0.16; 'zero,': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.17; 'expanded': 0.17; '>>>': 0.18; 'discussion': 0.20; 'fraction': 0.22; 'programming': 0.23; 'absolute': 0.23; 'to:2**1': 0.23; 'second': 0.24; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.25; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.26; '---': 0.26; 'charset:iso-8859-15': 0.26; 'expand': 0.26; "doesn't": 0.28; 'this?': 0.28; 'went': 0.28; 'chris': 0.28; '"in': 0.29; '>>>>': 0.29; 'astronomy': 0.29; "d'aprano": 0.29; 'high.': 0.29; 'implies': 0.29; 'steven': 0.29; 'url:mailman': 0.29; 'case,': 0.29; 'becomes': 0.30; 'fri,': 0.30; 'point': 0.31; 'url:python': 0.32; 'spread': 0.32; 'url:listinfo': 0.32; 'zero': 0.33; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.33; 'list': 0.35; 'bigger': 0.35; 'process,': 0.35; 'said,': 0.35; "won't": 0.35; 'there': 0.35; 'next': 0.35; 'but': 0.36; 'url:org': 0.36; '(i.e.': 0.36; 'thank': 0.36; 'possible': 0.37; 'does': 0.37; 'being': 0.37; 'rather': 0.37; 'subject:: ': 0.38; 'degree': 0.38; 'mean': 0.38; 'some': 0.38; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'received:192': 0.39; 'where': 0.40; 'received:192.168': 0.40; 'url:mail': 0.40; 'red': 0.60; 'subject:, ': 0.61; 'more': 0.63; 'total': 0.65; 'jul': 0.65; 'talking': 0.66; 'fact,': 0.69; 'death': 0.71; 'lack': 0.71; 'sir,': 0.78; 'low': 0.83; 'chemical': 0.84; "everything's": 0.84; 'god,': 0.84; 'stars': 0.84; 'temperature': 0.84; 'universe': 0.84; 'burn': 0.91; 'heat': 0.91; 'relate': 0.91; 'average': 0.93; 'sitting': 0.93; 'stood': 0.93; 'subject:skip:E 10': 0.95 X-SENDER-IP: [213.112.50.224] X-LISTENER: [smtp.bredband.net] X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ArUVABoeCVDVcDLgPGdsb2JhbAANOLlWAQEBATeCVAEBAQEDAQEBNTYKEQsYCRYPCQMCAQIBFRwUBgEMCAEBiBSqf5N1i0wahkYDkRKFRZFXgV0 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.77,622,1336341600"; d="scan'208";a="377036568" Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2012 11:05:09 +0200 From: Virgil Stokes User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.0; rv:14.0) Gecko/20120619 Thunderbird/14.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Steven D'Aprano , python-list@python.org Subject: Re: Encapsulation, inheritance and polymorphism References: <5005A103.9050802@stoneleaf.us> <5006b48a$0$29978$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <50076437$0$1756$c3e8da3$76491128@news.astraweb.com> <3d919437-80a8-424f-ae90-fb829434dba2@po9g2000pbb.googlegroups.com> <500804cc$0$29978$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <50084FEC.7040806@tim.thechases.com> <5009166e$0$29978$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> In-Reply-To: <5009166e$0$29978$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 51 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1342776821 news.xs4all.nl 6881 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:43089 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:25688 On 20-Jul-2012 10:27, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > On Fri, 20 Jul 2012 08:20:57 +1000, Chris Angelico wrote: > >>>> Since the current evidence indicates the universe will just keep >>>> expanding, it's more of a "deep freeze death..." >>> Heat death means *lack* of heat. >> The second law of thermodynamics states that energy tends to go from >> higher states to lower, with heat being the very lowest. It's possible >> to do work using (say) kinetic energy, and in the process, some of that >> energy becomes heat. It's also possible to do work with any difference >> in temperature (eg Stirling engines), so the state of the universe in >> which it's no longer possible to do any work will be one in which all >> energy is heat and everything's at the same temperature. That doesn't >> mean a lack of heat; in fact, it implies that there'll be rather more >> heat than there now is, because we currently have a whole lot of >> chemical energy available to be used. > Yes, but the point is, that heat will be *incredibly* diffuse, > essentially spread over the entire universe, which will be MUCH bigger > than it is now, and hence the temperature will be low even though the > total amount of heat will be high. > > The average temperature of the universe now is about 2.7 degrees above > absolute zero (i.e. 2.7 K, -270.45 C or -454.81 F), with individual > hotspots reaching into millions of degrees or higher. By the time the > last of the stars burn out, the average temperature will be a minuscule > fraction of a degree above absolute zero, and the only hotspots will be > the slowly cooling neutron stars. > > >> But in any case, that's a looooooooong way off... > I once went to an astronomy lecture where the lecturer was talking about > the eventual death of the sun. He said, "In about 10 billion years, the > sun will consume almost all of its fuel. It will cool and expand into a > red giant, and the earth will be engulfed by the expanded sun and > destroyed." > > This fellow sitting next to me got all agitated, stood up and cried out, > "Does the government know about this? We have to do something!" > > The lecturer said "Don't worry sir, there's no need to panic, this won't > happen for billions of years." > > The fellow looked relived and said "Oh thank god, I thought you said > *million*!" > > > How does this relate to the python list? 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