Path: csiph.com!x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net!feeder1.hal-mli.net!feeder.news-service.com!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed5.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.007 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.99; '*S*': 0.00; 'cache': 0.04; 'function,': 0.07; 'ret': 0.07; 'def': 0.13; 'am,': 0.14; 'wrote:': 0.14; 'cache,': 0.16; 'expr': 0.16; 'expression,': 0.16; 'expression.': 0.16; "he'll": 0.16; 'lookup': 0.16; 'pythonic': 0.16; 'simplified': 0.16; 'this?': 0.18; "wouldn't": 0.18; "he's": 0.19; 'tue,': 0.20; 'discussion': 0.20; 'code': 0.22; 'header:In-Reply- To:1': 0.22; 'trying': 0.23; 'example': 0.24; 'subject: -- ': 0.25; 'assume': 0.25; "i'm": 0.26; 'chris': 0.27; 'function': 0.27; 'message-id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.28; 'one,': 0.31; 'btw,': 0.31; 'calculate': 0.31; 'relying': 0.31; 'does': 0.31; 'to:addr :python-list': 0.32; 'implemented': 0.33; 'thinking': 0.33; "isn't": 0.34; 'there': 0.35; 'purposes': 0.35; 'assignment': 0.35; 'think': 0.36; 'none': 0.36; 'else': 0.37; 'rest': 0.37; 'received:209.85': 0.37; 'apr': 0.38; 'received:google.com': 0.38; 'but': 0.38; 'reasonable': 0.38; 'returning': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'could': 0.39; 'received:209': 0.39; 'attempt': 0.40; "it's": 0.40; 'header:Received:5': 0.40; 'might': 0.40; 'simple': 0.60; '2011': 0.62; 'worth': 0.64; 'here': 0.65; 'received:209.85.210.174': 0.84; 'received:mail- iy0-f174.google.com': 0.84; 'follow.': 0.91 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=7IUYlFO3zsR5pcZr+vNmQ+xSC468sbIewPluBlMIX1o=; b=GigOsPmU9tPFonlsK9nuzXT91OSY9A4M1bBHBz26snhbymILXmz2s+tmWtOdZhjdS6 NfQ3MO/fx4JD65P3Zqf8+ANGWpPlQTPknOmXMVh1lunLlvKpMDqwQzX8lOuq64yfiol/ 2vHTxeCFe9UbZLtlvFkJRuVCdzlaWf/2ltISc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=nyaf3BFjqcDZPO1KOMwdwq1Hpu4n/35y4e8Bk8pdK3aUxyOPKWPpwDLh9By9UZe/vO XxJGRwCcJbNMbpfvU+K/Rs7d18R2zTkm4EN/NpBHdKeTPmmLwtj+vZ4tgKoWCu55APtb bvJjMjMIHo5y/YO2qh6tn/YNyauFLp4uuo3Ao= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <8abff237-5ccd-4eb6-85c8-cdc9e87520b7@bl1g2000vbb.googlegroups.com> Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2011 10:46:38 +1000 Subject: Re: Feature suggestion -- return if true From: Chris Angelico To: python-list@python.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 42 NNTP-Posting-Host: 82.94.164.166 X-Trace: 1302569202 news.xs4all.nl 81473 [::ffff:82.94.164.166]:37304 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net comp.lang.python:3009 On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 10:27 AM, James Mills wrote: > This could be simplified to just: > > return expr or None > > And more to the point... If your calee is relying > on the result of this function, just returning the > evaluation of "expr" is enough. I'm thinking here that that's not a solution; he'll have more code to follow. An example of what I think he's trying to do: def fac(n): # attempt to get from a cache return? cache[n] # not in cache, calculate the value ret=1 if n<=1 else fac(n-1)*n # and cache and return it cache[n]=ret; return ret If the rest of the function can be implemented as an expression, it might be possible to use: return expr or other_expr But in the example of a lookup cache, that wouldn't work so easily - assignment isn't an expression. If 'x=y' had a value as it does in C, the above function could become: def fac(n): return cache[n] or (cache[n]=1 if n<=1 else fac(n-1)*n) which is a reasonable one-liner, albeit not the most efficient factorial implementation. Is there a simple and Pythonic way to do this? BTW, assume for the purposes of discussion that the return? expr is a complex one, such that it's well worth evaluating only once (maybe even has side effects). Chris Angelico