Path: csiph.com!x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net!newsfeed.hal-mli.net!feeder1.hal-mli.net!weretis.net!feeder1.news.weretis.net!feeder.erje.net!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed6.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.030 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.94; '*S*': 0.00; ':-)': 0.06; 'function,': 0.07; 'kelly': 0.09; '>>>': 0.12; 'examples': 0.12; 'am,': 0.14; 'wrote:': 0.14; 'assertion': 0.16; 'disagree,': 0.16; 'sarcasm': 0.16; '\xc2\xa0i': 0.16; '\xc2\xa0if': 0.16; 'compatible': 0.16; 'received:74.125.82.174': 0.16; 'received:mail- wy0-f174.google.com': 0.16; 'cc:addr:python-list': 0.17; 'tue,': 0.17; 'slightly': 0.19; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.21; 'cc:2**0': 0.22; 'cc:no real name:2**0': 0.23; 'function': 0.25; 'example': 0.27; "i'm": 0.27; 'message-id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.28; 'noticed': 0.28; 'least': 0.30; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.30; 'differences': 0.30; 'html.': 0.30; 'it.': 0.31; 'does': 0.33; 'list': 0.33; 'things': 0.33; 'fail': 0.34; 'example,': 0.35; 'test': 0.35; 'open': 0.36; 'uses': 0.36; 'received:google.com': 0.37; 'case': 0.37; 'perform': 0.37; 'two': 0.37; 'received:74.125.82': 0.38; 'received:74.125': 0.38; 'could': 0.38; 'but': 0.38; 'subject:: ': 0.38; 'easily': 0.60; 'url:co': 0.62; 'design': 0.63; '31,': 0.65; 'designed': 0.65; 'show': 0.66; 'prove': 0.68; '"all': 0.84; "'one'": 0.84; '11:56': 0.84; 'ian,': 0.84; 'surprised,': 0.84; 'invite': 0.89; 'excel,': 0.91 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=wJpuvhZMobWN7Mzub1xEepaCrrhSZsgmSmA7t4yMP8Y=; b=AIunAsg/IrxO2G7hn/KucW/CQDJGaKl8SfLUsgRrKDNyGX7HARItOMd7AlmGv4k5fi Jysn10RGBbxrLPREj78SmiKcjj1X4808A9s5MTBOqvbqiRBBT/8ijNwlMroD7eTTy2Ts zZqrKpX26CUsoUrxmyzpBg+/QxDNRIkzhw4ZA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=Ik8Db2nzI/y1RYyOGlmsc/CdTz1N0DUs8D9NyUTbf7avYA1bpqUMWMxjpwwNCo01y1 NGRtAlJ0Ahk8MJdmbqDcynjkTlYfzqAoUD7uyIL1rviaSUckUlD+UOuDqwx1uo52bSfH 1QuIQ+9QPhe30DrpJrevfewbT5abImFjaU3zw= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <4DDC7938.5000900@gmail.com> <4ddfc8ae$0$29996$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <4de09317$0$29996$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <2giEp.236$QL2.62@newsfe04.iad> Date: Tue, 31 May 2011 21:42:26 +0300 Subject: Re: Beginner needs advice From: Dotan Cohen To: Ian Kelly Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: python-list@python.org X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 38 NNTP-Posting-Host: 82.94.164.166 X-Trace: 1306867355 news.xs4all.nl 49039 [::ffff:82.94.164.166]:47354 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net comp.lang.python:6751 On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 21:29, Ian Kelly wrote: > On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 11:56 AM, Dotan Cohen wrot= e: >>> =C2=A0If you disagree, then I invite you to list one example of two >>> different things that are compatible. >>> >> >> Men and women. > > This is a slightly different sense of the word compatible than we have > been discussing: able to work together to perform a function, not > interchangeable. > >> MS Office and Open Office. > > Nope. =C2=A0Remember, the assertion by harrismh777 was that "all you have > to do to prove incompatibility is to show 'one' (1) test case where > compatibility fails". =C2=A0As one example, any Calc document that uses t= he > EASTERSUNDAY function will fail in Excel, since Excel does not provide > it. =C2=A0I could easily come up with other examples (let's not even get > into the differences in macros), but one is all I need. > >> IE6 and HTML. > > :-) > Ian, I'm surprised, you of all people might have noticed that my sarcasm was intended to point out exactly that no two things are compatible, least of all those things designed with compatibility as a design spec! --=20 Dotan Cohen http://gibberish.co.il http://what-is-what.com