Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!weretis.net!feeder1.news.weretis.net!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!xlned.com!feeder3.xlned.com!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed1.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.017 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.97; '*S*': 0.00; 'python,': 0.02; 'subject:Python': 0.06; 'javascript,': 0.07; 'in-house': 0.09; 'scripting': 0.09; 'language.': 0.14; 'from:addr:rosuav': 0.16; 'from:name:chris angelico': 0.16; 'roy': 0.16; 'subject: \n ': 0.16; 'subject:Languages': 0.16; 'subject:user': 0.16; 'worst': 0.16; 'language': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'app': 0.19; 'trying': 0.19; 'coding': 0.22; 'developing': 0.27; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'chris': 0.29; 'am,': 0.29; 'experiences': 0.30; 'strongly': 0.30; 'message-id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.30; 'code': 0.31; 'bad.': 0.31; 'languages': 0.32; 'subject: (': 0.35; 'but': 0.35; 'received:google.com': 0.35; 'subject:New': 0.37; 'nov': 0.38; 'whatever': 0.38; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.38; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'called': 0.40; 'subject: / ': 0.60; 'new': 0.61; 'making': 0.63; 'media': 0.66; 'worth': 0.66; 'production': 0.68; 'smith': 0.68; 'evaluate': 0.72; 'player.': 0.84; 'try,': 0.84; 'notion': 0.91; '2013': 0.98 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=POq9RdvbL+XHetW6iBb1vkoD/qrpPbyYAv5agY0U+mU=; b=oqlnDc5fi2LbS9Hbzf/h+NlUCSsccrfX1GVnQFYxXWMym9vrFppkvnd3Ux60tLLQPx YyiVOheUzSuLYt83sIlwdLgGDOaxYGCXGt5KifEb2+iWN/eynVbKBUngoscBkuCayxmw G3tUjyzA/xod5/LpspcIWdsRPRwyFyCtmEtFcomAYjcmaAebzdAYbHsFXN9dgbdHeIFj kv28JS3f7/9FC/fjb6rhUN4p7GAvlwU3uQG2ruLDeysPJ4w4imeCiGVN4246s8VqeYi+ Ty45I9P6XMRZfVDsSndermZuhUv728gtdN6U/ZVNHMiMvemWgb1pfbVMc9dtziT+dMHB acuw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.68.171.5 with SMTP id aq5mr22714306pbc.21.1384044789656; Sat, 09 Nov 2013 16:53:09 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2013 11:53:09 +1100 Subject: Re: Languages for different purposes (was Re: New user's initial thoughts / criticisms of Python) From: Chris Angelico To: python-list@python.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 17 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1384044797 news.xs4all.nl 15982 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:54704 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:58978 On Sun, Nov 10, 2013 at 11:41 AM, Roy Smith wrote: > On 09/11/2013 22:58, Chris Angelico wrote: >> > >> > * Some languages are just fundamentally bad. I do not recommend ever >> > writing production code in Whitespace, Ook, or Piet. > > One of the worst coding experiences I ever had was trying to build an > app for a Roku media player. They have a home-grown language called > BrightScript. Barf. And this is exactly why I was so strongly against the notion of developing an in-house scripting language. It may be a lot of work to evaluate Lua, Python, JavaScript, and whatever others we wanted to try, but it's a *lot* less work than making a new language that actually is worth using. ChrisA