Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!weretis.net!feeder4.news.weretis.net!feeds.phibee-telecom.net!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed4.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.008 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.98; '*S*': 0.00; 'postgresql': 0.07; 'sql.': 0.07; 'creighton': 0.09; 'mysql.': 0.09; 'received:openend.se': 0.09; 'received:theraft.openend.se': 0.09; 'cc:addr:python-list': 0.10; 'python': 0.11; 'do,': 0.15; 'cc:addr:lac': 0.16; 'cc:addr:openend.se': 0.16; 'fond': 0.16; 'from:addr:lac': 0.16; 'from:addr:openend.se': 0.16; 'from:name:laura creighton': 0.16; 'message-id:@fido.openend.se': 0.16; 'received:89.233': 0.16; 'received:89.233.217': 0.16; 'received:89.233.217.133': 0.16; 'received:fido': 0.16; 'received:fido.openend.se': 0.16; 'sqlalchemy': 0.16; 'usual.': 0.16; 'why,': 0.16; 'laura': 0.18; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.21; 'cc:2**1': 0.22; 'downtown': 0.22; 'suppose': 0.22; '2015': 0.23; "haven't": 0.24; 'tried': 0.24; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.24; '+0200,': 0.27; 'this.': 0.28; "i'm": 0.29; 'looks': 0.29; 'received:se': 0.29; 'cc:no real name:2**1': 0.29; 'fri,': 0.31; 'knows': 0.32; 'probably': 0.32; 'interface,': 0.33; 'somebody': 0.35; 'something': 0.35; 'really': 0.35; 'but': 0.36; 'should': 0.37; "didn't": 0.37; 'subject:: ': 0.37; "won't": 0.38; 'world,': 0.38; 'rather': 0.38; 'even': 0.61; 'header:Message-Id:1': 0.62; 'more': 0.62; 'che': 0.63; 'strange': 0.63; 'skip:n 10': 0.63; 'course': 0.64; 'here': 0.66; 'everybody': 0.67; 'home': 0.67; 'received:89': 0.80; 'friends': 0.82; '(they': 0.84; '>if': 0.84; 'quello': 0.84; 'subject:good': 0.84; 'subject:tool': 0.84; 'sweden': 0.84; 'quando': 0.91 To: Lele Gaifax cc: python-list@python.org, lac@openend.se From: Laura Creighton Subject: Re: Camelot a good tool for me In-Reply-To: Message from Lele Gaifax of "Fri, 22 May 2015 19:24:30 +0200." <87k2w0le41.fsf@nautilus.nautilus> References: <87zj4xoxfd.fsf@Equus.decebal.nl> <87siaopxjs.fsf@Equus.decebal.nl> <201505221357.t4MDvgIV001904@fido.openend.se><87k2w0le41.fsf@nautilus.nautilus> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-ID: <7433.1432317394.1@fido> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Date: Fri, 22 May 2015 19:56:34 +0200 X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.3.9 (theraft.openend.se [89.233.217.130]); Fri, 22 May 2015 19:56:42 +0200 (CEST) X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20+ Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 29 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1432317420 news.xs4all.nl 2843 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:36673 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:91059 In a message of Fri, 22 May 2015 19:24:30 +0200, Lele Gaifax writes: >Laura Creighton writes: > >> In my corner of the world, everybody uses SQL. >> [...] >> The people who have tried SQLAlchemy really didn't like it, and of course >> the people who haven't tried it do what their friends do, as usual. > >If these sentences are related, you must live in a very strange corner! > >;-) >ciao, lele. >-- >nickname: Lele Gaifax | Quando vivrò di quello che ho pensato ieri >real: Emanuele Gaifas | comincerò ad aver paura di chi mi copia. >lele@metapensiero.it | -- Fortunato Depero, 1929. Just looks like home to me. :) But explains why, should you ever want to use SQLALchemy for something you would have to look long and hard around here to find somebody who uses it -- whereas practically every bar downtown (near both Chalmers university and a lot of IT jobs) will find you somebody who knows MySQL. (They won't all know the Python interface, though.) That MySQL was invented in Sweden probably has a lot to do with this. But I'm a PostgreSQL partisan, though these days I am rather more fond of non-relational databases like MongoDB which I suppose is even ranker heresy. :) Laura