Path: csiph.com!x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net!newsfeed.hal-mli.net!feeder1.hal-mli.net!feeder.news-service.com!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed6.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.001 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 1.00; '*S*': 0.00; 'subject:two': 0.07; 'python': 0.08; '[0,': 0.09; '[0]': 0.09; 'clearly,': 0.09; 'decorator': 0.09; 'mutable': 0.09; 'preserves': 0.09; 'subject:parameters': 0.09; 'pm,': 0.10; '>>>': 0.12; 'def': 0.12; 'received:209.85.214.174': 0.14; 'received:mail- iw0-f174.google.com': 0.14; 'wrote:': 0.14; '*args,': 0.16; 'arg': 0.16; 'nargs': 0.16; 'subject:function': 0.16; 'tue,': 0.17; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.21; 'function': 0.25; 'message- id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.28; 'received:209.85.214': 0.28; 'import': 0.29; 'email name:': 0.30; 'objects.': 0.30; 'pure': 0.32; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.33; "i've": 0.33; 'daniel': 0.34; 'received:google.com': 0.37; 'received:209.85': 0.37; 'subject:: ': 0.38; 'subject: (': 0.39; 'received:209': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'possibility': 0.40; 'within': 0.60; 'best': 0.60; 'skip:n 30': 0.63; '31,': 0.65; 'making': 0.67; 'intend': 0.73; 'eliminates': 0.93 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=zQMNlfhj0Efh/Qte09s/l6TNtcLM/7npmf3sID0uVyM=; b=rAyX00hvwCMfjasqDxU1VnJXwwY8wgahN7FGanQEDYyOhJi3vdDrTjzcWGHWEbosT7 IZcfCotSHQC13sCv+uPlkrMz95Z/DbL5LyBJ3OJ1RCPmv/JxkHaXrGNJvCgrNR5HVAip wr+RV6Sykb4Re61GHmOyT1CYgJAuoZ57Zp1bo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=qQo9HENy7E4YgnFBZE7ejfJsCtiDe6/n2aFUHcfO2Kem99Dk81Jg1JClNGi3J32s/L 1N4X3GNWAX6GDBS91JdhGA7QqOEgDnRINx0f/MsBRPW8ixBbq/NNKr+P9GvobDK7pyJ4 SnSpAONDzw2y00jCPPAdCdFfhIE26uksfhOIY= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <6699AB10-988A-49AD-B7C1-6BAA2CC3D008@mcgill.ca> References: <6699AB10-988A-49AD-B7C1-6BAA2CC3D008@mcgill.ca> Date: Tue, 31 May 2011 18:38:40 +1100 Subject: Re: scope of function parameters (take two) From: Daniel Kluev To: python-list@python.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 42 NNTP-Posting-Host: 82.94.164.166 X-Trace: 1306827524 news.xs4all.nl 49182 [::ffff:82.94.164.166]:53605 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net comp.lang.python:6715 On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 6:17 PM, Henry Olders wrote: > Clearly, making a copy within the function eliminates the possibility of the > side effects caused by passing in mutable objects. Would having the > compiler/interpreter do this automatically make python so much different? As I've pointed, you can make decorator to do that. Adding @copy_args to each function you intend to be pure is not that hard. import decorator import copy @decorator.decorator def copy_args(f, *args, **kw): nargs = [] for arg in args: nargs.append(copy.deepcopy(arg)) nkw = {} for k,v in kw.iteritems(): nkw[k] = copy.deepcopy(v) return f(*nargs, **nkw) @copy_args def test(a): a.append(1) return a >>> l = [0] >>> test(l) [0, 1] >>> l [0] >>> inspect.getargspec(test) ArgSpec(args=['a'], varargs=None, keywords=None, defaults=None) So this decorator achieves needed result and preserves function signatures. -- With best regards, Daniel Kluev