Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!aioe.org!news.stack.nl!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed1.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.001 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 1.00; '*S*': 0.00; 'else:': 0.03; 'classes,': 0.05; 'true,': 0.05; '%s"': 0.09; 'caller': 0.09; 'from:addr:ethan': 0.09; 'from:addr:stoneleaf.us': 0.09; 'from:name:ethan furman': 0.09; 'function,': 0.09; 'here?': 0.09; 'if,': 0.09; 'inherited': 0.09; 'message-id:@stoneleaf.us': 0.09; 'wrapper': 0.09; '~ethan~': 0.09; 'def': 0.12; '**kwds)': 0.16; '**kwds):': 0.16; 'args:': 0.16; 'callee': 0.16; 'entry.': 0.16; 'letting': 0.16; 'logging,': 0.16; 'subject:log': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.23; 'define': 0.26; 'logging': 0.26; 'this:': 0.26; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'idea': 0.28; 'function': 0.29; 'am,': 0.29; "doesn't": 0.30; 'concern': 0.31; 'routine': 0.31; 'class': 0.32; 'skip:c 30': 0.32; 'text': 0.33; 'not.': 0.33; 'skip:s 30': 0.35; 'transaction': 0.35; 'done.': 0.35; 'but': 0.35; 'really': 0.36; 'sat': 0.36; 'subject:?': 0.36; 'should': 0.36; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.38; 'anything': 0.39; 'does': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'either': 0.39; 'called': 0.40; 'even': 0.60; 'easy': 0.60; 'logged': 0.60; 'received:173': 0.61; "you're": 0.61; 'different': 0.65; 'account': 0.65; 'between': 0.67; 'line,': 0.68; 'grew': 0.84; 'moves': 0.84; 'convenience,': 0.91; 'good,': 0.91 Date: Tue, 03 Sep 2013 19:26:09 -0700 From: Ethan Furman User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:16.0) Gecko/20121010 Thunderbird/16.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: python-list@python.org Subject: Re: to be pythonic: should caller or callee log? References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - gator3304.hostgator.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - python.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - stoneleaf.us X-BWhitelist: no X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Source-Sender: ([173.12.184.233]) [173.12.184.233]:59314 X-Source-Auth: ethan+stoneleaf.us X-Email-Count: 1 X-Source-Cap: dG9idWs7dG9idWs7Z2F0b3IzMzA0Lmhvc3RnYXRvci5jb20= X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 77 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1378262777 news.xs4all.nl 15870 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:42218 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:53592 On 09/03/2013 09:07 AM, Gildor Oronar wrote: > What would you choose? Do you put logging routine into caller or callee? My intuitive answer is "callee does the > logging, because that's where action takes place", like this: > > class Account(): > def transaction(self, amount, target): > logging.info("Start transaction of %s to %s" % (amount, target)) > ... > > So far so good, but we grew up to have 10 different account classes: > > class AbsctractAccount(): > > class CreditAccount(AbstractAccount): > def transaction(self, amount, target): > logging.info("Start transaction of %s to %s" % (amount, target)) > ... > > class DebitAccount(AbstractAccount): > def transaction(self, amount, target): > logging.info("Start transaction of %s to %s" % (amount, target)) > ... > > class SomeOtherAccount(...) > .... > > Then letting the callee do the logging is also tedious now. > > What is the best practise here? > > If, for the convenience, we define transaction function in AbstractAccount to just do the logging, and change inherited > classes, like this: > > class AbsctractAccount(): > def transaction(self, amount, target): > logging.info("Start transaction of %s to %s" % (amount, target)) > > class DebitAccount(AbstractAccount): > def transaction(self, amount, target): > super().transaction(amount,target) > .... In this instance you're not really gaining anything by using inheritance: before you had one line for logging, after you have one line to call super(); in either case if you forget the one line you don't get a log entry. I would say it is not really the caller's or the callee's job to do the logging, even though it should be done. What would be really handy is a function that sat in between the caller and callee that logged for you -- you know, a decorator: # not tested, but hopefully you get the idea def log(func): def wrapper(*args, **kwds): text = [] if args: text.append(str(args)) if kwds: text.append(str(kwds)) text = ', '.join(text) if text: logging.info("%s called with %s" % (func.__name__, text) else: logging.info("%s called" % func.__name__) return func(*args, **kwds) return wrapper Then you can say: class WhateverAccount: @log def transaction(self, amount, target): ... True, you still one line, but moves the logging concern outside the function, where it doesn't really belong. It also makes it really easy to see if a function will be logged or not. -- ~Ethan~