Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!aioe.org!news.stack.nl!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed6.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.004 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.99; '*S*': 0.00; 'completeness': 0.07; 'advice?': 0.09; 'received:155': 0.09; 'subject:language': 0.09; 'subject:python': 0.11; 'assume': 0.11; 'ignore': 0.13; 'disclaimers': 0.16; 'disclaimers,': 0.16; 'from:addr:jpmorgan.com': 0.16; 'oct': 0.16; 'received:155.180': 0.16; 'received:155.180.234': 0.16; 'received:159.53': 0.16; 'received:169.70': 0.16; 'received:bankone.net': 0.16; 'received:exchad.jpmchase.net': 0.16; 'received:jpmchase.com': 0.16; 'received:jpmchase.net': 0.16; 'received:svr.bankone.net': 0.16; 'securities,': 0.16; 'troll': 0.16; 'url:disclosures': 0.16; 'url:jpmorgan': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.17; 'community,': 0.17; 'causing': 0.20; 'to:name:python-list@python.org': 0.20; 'posts': 0.23; 'somebody': 0.23; 'received:169.254': 0.24; 'header:In- Reply-To:1': 0.25; 'wrote': 0.26; 'meeting': 0.27; 'accuracy': 0.27; 'subject:list': 0.28; 'fine': 0.28; '-0700,': 0.29; 'behaviour': 0.29; "d'aprano": 0.29; 'steven': 0.29; 'received:169': 0.29; 'header:Received:8': 0.30; 'to:addr:python- list': 0.33; 'agree': 0.34; 'list': 0.35; 'same.': 0.35; 'but': 0.36; 'anything': 0.36; 'should': 0.36; 'charset:us-ascii': 0.36; 'being': 0.37; 'subject:: ': 0.38; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'subject:-': 0.40; 'your': 0.60; 'skip:u 10': 0.60; 'between': 0.63; 'information,': 0.63; 'url:email': 0.63; 'great': 0.64; 'legal': 0.65; 'readers': 0.65; 'subject': 0.66; 'purchase': 0.67; 'believe': 0.69; 'sale': 0.76; 'distinguish': 0.84; 'received:169.254.8': 0.84; 'responses': 0.93 X-DKIM: OpenDKIM Filter v2.1.3 sf1.jpmchase.com q9GKHh7G027738 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=jpmorgan.com; s=smtpout; t=1350418663; bh=NiaUGOYGJmC4YnWPeNRIS4fEfM5oOBPmSUpoD8LTRwE=; h=From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:References:In-Reply-To: Content-Transfer-Encoding:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=F3b29100xwKtLkvOMqVo8IwOv+KYD/fIBhgTIUH0tmX6UAiEAvZ/NAAv91AeXBb6+ e40ce39ze+gp353fvWJDmQ8VCMwkMEu99v+br+In+FXVrg9/nT2PeZva6LJj3aqXkh wPqr+xVyMg/b8+t4pEU2KBexw0OkYElo0orw9gCg= From: "Prasad, Ramit" To: "python-list@python.org" Subject: RE: Aggressive language on python-list Thread-Topic: Aggressive language on python-list Thread-Index: AQHNq74uAFe18xATxUSnrBYTOke+PZe8XO5g Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2012 20:17:34 +0000 References: <27cbf07c-60ac-41ac-a00f-dbe8edf45078@b9g2000pbc.googlegroups.com> <85099bc2-fa24-4cc5-bd94-3015b9af694f@googlegroups.com> <507d900e$0$6599$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> In-Reply-To: <507d900e$0$6599$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.67.79.47] Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-DLP-FWD: Yes Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 20 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1350420174 news.xs4all.nl 6945 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:47594 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:31431 Steven D'Aprano wrote:=0D=0A> On Tue, 16 Oct 2012 09:27:48 -0700, rurpy wro= te about trolls and dicks:=0D=0A> =0D=0A> > The best advise is to ignore su= ch posts and encourage others to do the=0D=0A> > same=2E=0D=0A> =0D=0A> If = you ignore such posts, how will the poster know they are unacceptable?=0D= =0A> =0D=0A> How should somebody distinguish between "I am being shunned fo= r acting=0D=0A> like a dick", and "I have not received any responses becaus= e nobody has=0D=0A> anything to add"?=0D=0A> =0D=0A> If I believe that your= behaviour ("giving lousy advice") is causing great=0D=0A> harm to this com= munity, and *I don't say anything*, how will you know to=0D=0A> change your= behaviour? How will others know that I do not agree with your=0D=0A> advic= e?=0D=0A> =0D=0A> =0D=0A=0D=0AI agree completely=2E I was about to say that= I was fine with meeting=0D=0Aknown trolls with silence, but what happens w= hen new or infrequent =0D=0Areaders see the troll's writing with no one obj= ecting? Are they to=0D=0Aignore the troll or assume that the list condones = the troll's words?=0D=0A=0D=0A~Ramit=0D=0A=0D=0A=0D=0AThis email is confide= ntial and subject to important disclaimers and=0D=0Aconditions including on= offers for the purchase or sale of=0D=0Asecurities, accuracy and completen= ess of information, viruses,=0D=0Aconfidentiality, legal privilege, and leg= al entity disclaimers,=0D=0Aavailable at http://www=2Ejpmorgan=2Ecom/pages/= disclosures/email=2E