Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!weretis.net!feeder1.news.weretis.net!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!xlned.com!feeder5.xlned.com!news2.euro.net!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!194.109.133.86.MISMATCH!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed3.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.020 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.96; '*S*': 0.00; 'string.': 0.04; 'rfc': 0.09; ':-)': 0.13; 'to:name:python-list': 0.15; 'accident"': 0.16; 'elephant': 0.16; 'mean,': 0.16; 'subject:programmer': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.17; '(not': 0.20; 'math': 0.20; 'suggested': 0.20; 'written': 0.20; 'uses.': 0.22; 'x-mailer:microsoft outlook express 6.00.2900.5931': 0.22; 'seems': 0.23; 'url:wiki': 0.26; 'question': 0.27; 'fine': 0.28; 'probability': 0.29; 'though.': 0.29; 'url:wikipedia': 0.29; 'implement': 0.32; 'to:addr:python- list': 0.33; 'produced': 0.33; 'project': 0.34; 'there': 0.35; 'url:org': 0.36; 'generation': 0.36; 'charset:us-ascii': 0.36; 'resources': 0.37; 'subject:: ': 0.38; 'some': 0.38; 'talk': 0.38; 'url:en': 0.38; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'notice': 0.39; 'subject:-': 0.40; 'selling': 0.64; 'drive,': 0.65; 'ago.': 0.66; 'computers.': 0.84; 'dollars': 0.98 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII; format=flowed; reply-type=original From: Gisle Vanem To: Python-list References: <4CACF5BFEFC24638A0D8007921722FB8@dev.null> Subject: Re: FYI: AI-programmer Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2013 14:03:32 +0100 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6157 X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 24 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1361538220 news.xs4all.nl 6852 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:58557 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:39557 "Chris Angelico" wrote: > That's not artificial intelligence, though. It's artificial program > generation based on a known target output. The "Fitness" calculation > is based on a specific target string. This is fine for devising a > program that will produce the entire works of Shakespeare, since there You mean, art generation (writing Shakespearian texts) is a process of generating "known target output"?. If we talk about good art (not kitch), I disagree. For reference, "Infinite Monkey Teorem" is at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infinite_monkey_theorem Disregarding the probability math in the above, the question IMHO boils down to whether "art can be produced by accident" (quote from above). I seems to recall elephant painting selling for lots of dollars some years ago. And long dull poems written by computers. Fooled a lot of people. > As suggested in RFC 2795 [1], the resources required to implement such > a project would also have other uses. Like the Infinite Improbability > Drive, I did notice that RFC was written on 1 April 2000 :-) --gv