Path: csiph.com!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!not-for-mail From: Mark Lawrence Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Subject: Re: Suggestion: make sequence and map interfaces more similar Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2016 21:31:21 +0100 Lines: 17 Message-ID: References: <56f8836b$0$1602$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <56FA8C71.4050306@rece.vub.ac.be> <56fb677f$0$11121$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com> <56fba7d3$0$1616$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <56fbc518$0$1593$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <56fbf73d$0$1591$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de cCxoqf77tN8uc41Inl13iAXssTud0lw9XHc7zZI7d9BA== Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.011 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.98; '*S*': 0.00; 'from:addr:yahoo.co.uk': 0.05; 'builtin': 0.07; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; '2016': 0.16; 'received:80.91.229.3': 0.16; 'received:io': 0.16; 'received:plane.gmane.org': 0.16; 'received:psf.io': 0.16; 'reedy': 0.16; 'subject:interfaces': 0.16; 'subject:make': 0.16; 'useless': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.16; 'language': 0.19; 'lawrence': 0.22; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.24; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.26; 'header:X-Complaints-To:1': 0.26; 'language.': 0.32; 'true.': 0.33; 'quite': 0.35; 'to:addr:python- list': 0.36; 'subject:: ': 0.37; 'received:org': 0.37; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.40; 'mark': 0.40; 'subject:more': 0.61; 'different': 0.63; 'our': 0.64; 'march': 0.64; 'due': 0.65; 'python-list': 0.66; 'demand': 0.79; 'confusing': 0.84; 'pythonistas,': 0.84; 'sulla': 0.91 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 80.234.189.93 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.7.1 In-Reply-To: X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:106111 On 30/03/2016 20:35, Marco Sulla via Python-list wrote: > On 30 March 2016 at 02:55, Terry Reedy wrote: >> To me [seq.items() and seq.keys()] are useless and confusing duplications since enumerate()(seq) >> and range(len(seq)) are quite different from dict.items and dict.keys. > > It's true. Indeed IMHO it's enumerate() that will be a confusing duplication. > Please explain how a builtin that was brought in due to popular demand can be a "confusing duplication". -- My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask what you can do for our language. Mark Lawrence