Path: csiph.com!v102.xanadu-bbs.net!xanadu-bbs.net!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!newsfeed.freenet.ag!news2.euro.net!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.025 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.95; '*S*': 0.00; 'subject:skip:s 10': 0.05; 'ascii': 0.07; 'think,': 0.07; 'ugly': 0.07; '(more,': 0.16; '2:28': 0.16; 'from:addr:rosuav': 0.16; 'from:name:chris angelico': 0.16; 'laws,': 0.16; 'proportion': 0.16; 'right;': 0.16; 's/he': 0.16; 'similarly,': 0.16; 'subject:between': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.17; 'jan': 0.18; 'sort': 0.21; 'fairly': 0.21; "i've": 0.23; 'idea': 0.24; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.25; '(which': 0.26; 'am,': 0.27; 'question': 0.27; 'message-id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.27; "d'aprano": 0.29; 'piece': 0.29; 'steven': 0.29; 'case,': 0.29; 'words': 0.29; "i'm": 0.29; 'maybe': 0.29; 'knows': 0.30; 'that.': 0.30; 'helpful': 0.30; 'code': 0.31; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.33; 'that,': 0.34; 'received:google.com': 0.34; 'list': 0.35; 'received:209.85.220': 0.35; 'received:209.85': 0.35; 'there': 0.35; 'but': 0.36; 'should': 0.36; 'received:209': 0.37; 'subject:: ': 0.38; 'fact': 0.38; 'some': 0.38; 'talk': 0.38; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'little': 0.39; 'header:Received:5': 0.40; 'think': 0.40; 'most': 0.61; 'internet,': 0.61; 'information,': 0.63; 'hints': 0.65; 'risk': 0.66; 'color': 0.69; 'eight': 0.71; 'secret': 0.71; 'special': 0.73; 'absolutely': 0.84; '2013': 0.84; 'maths': 0.84; 'significance': 0.84; 'subject:\x92': 0.84 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=prq6YCJ6M7WEVZn1ufCBP3p8nZJ4bV3+11elpeY1UXc=; b=c0CSbeC0VTTCzih8/YnleH/XL21qHrXWmp2LU7EIafN2EVTnYueHw+Iw9kJiQr8fJK HMgGyCw5CcwwSSFbOpLQ07ALHESemuglbIhnKrUZwRijwCPX/vqltAUhQnFPZC1p7LQL fjmoFt2FbEbsa4a5Y+eyN9fj63eq++LviKRzeR2dRXj63isgZAtK7LjCumeLP5oBgT4d vDTs6jh+XUYPGrKBL/EcJIT5ZbsNtQH9GD07ha2wou65DwxlfwSLCFG2TE/OeSmBaEmz WzwXEd+5/gsBbxbnlrScDekIl6bk3SEnNtmsTXqJpLij8y9TwR/L0w8a4aEKe8IRTGK5 kIJA== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <50eae991$0$30003$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> References: <50eae991$0$30003$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2013 02:54:49 +1100 Subject: =?windows-1252?Q?Re=3A_what=92s_the_difference_between_socket=2Esend=28=29_an?= =?windows-1252?Q?d_socket=2Esendall=28=29_=3F?= From: Chris Angelico To: python-list@python.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 29 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1357574091 news.xs4all.nl 6851 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:52555 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:36359 On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 2:28 AM, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > I > once was on a maths mailing list for about three years before I > realised that the most prolific and helpful person there was as > blind as a bat. And that, I think, is what s/he would have most wanted: three years (more, most likely) without any sort of special treatment. It's all very well to talk about anti-discrimination laws, but on the internet, nobody knows you're a bat, if I can mangle that expression without offending people. We have some excellent people on a couple of MUDs I'm on who are, similarly, blind and using screen-readers. Again, you don't even know that that's the case until/unless a question comes out about some piece of ASCII art (which there's a very VERY little of in Threshold), or some client-specific question hints at the fact that s/he is using one of the reader-friendly clients (which are fairly ugly to the sighted). As to the use of color for emphasis, though - I don't think the OP used it like that. I've no idea what the significance of white-on-blue words was, there; it completely eludes me. Maybe he was sending a secret message in the color codes? In any case, Steven's eight reasons are absolutely right; when HTML code isn't adding information, it should be stripped, and when it is adding information, you risk a large proportion of people not seeing it. So there's never a good time to use HTML. ChrisA