Path: csiph.com!x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net!usenet.pasdenom.info!news.albasani.net!newsfeed.freenet.ag!news2.euro.net!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed6.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.003 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.99; '*S*': 0.00; ':-)': 0.06; 'constructive': 0.09; 'contexts': 0.09; 'okay': 0.09; 'referenced': 0.09; 'say.': 0.09; 'subject:parameters': 0.09; 'pm,': 0.10; 'received:209.85.214.174': 0.14; 'received:mail- iw0-f174.google.com': 0.14; 'wrote:': 0.14; '"hey': 0.16; 'angelico': 0.16; 'beginning.': 0.16; 'finney': 0.16; 'from:addr:rosuav': 0.16; 'from:name:chris angelico': 0.16; 'guys,': 0.16; 'is"': 0.16; 'subject:function': 0.16; 'permission': 0.16; 'mon,': 0.17; 'writes:': 0.19; 'header:In- Reply-To:1': 0.21; 'right.': 0.22; 'trying': 0.23; 'asked': 0.24; 'saying': 0.26; 'message-id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.28; 'received:209.85.214': 0.28; 'article.': 0.30; 'indeed.': 0.30; 'reveal': 0.30; 'situation,': 0.30; 'specifically': 0.31; 'steven': 0.32; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.33; 'post': 0.33; 'list': 0.33; 'page.': 0.33; "i'll": 0.34; 'chris': 0.34; 'there': 0.35; 'quite': 0.36; 'certain': 0.36; 'difference': 0.37; 'received:google.com': 0.37; 'received:209.85': 0.37; 'mailing': 0.38; 'but': 0.38; 'linked': 0.38; 'media,': 0.38; 'subject:: ': 0.38; 'received:209': 0.39; 'list,': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'your': 0.60; 'love': 0.62; 'took': 0.63; 'demand': 0.66; 'article': 0.76; '30,': 0.84; 'thee.': 0.84; 'climax': 0.91; 'standards.': 0.91 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=YGWleqscdw1ho1CTKmJfs9A0GP3v3ypAdv4SouJqAQw=; b=RK00VSJINrz//SrgmuiJtBoZfxwuSrBfODRg0ni6kFeUyTsKV60vcDj5wJ+3TSlDC7 iJPA61whyH2FJejIB/+LetXP4shlJWtebeG1+HS6jdGKWvMddXCo6i06X+ku8sumFalM 5doEP16/80cKnE+5DjZCn4zondlnkvy0AvfpU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=CIh+GX3y0JvMY2X+/C19jXyu4xl9M+cNeBNxS8t3lssj0Pp3FtaQMhwbZ2rNElToqj P43t2REMFwEz+YfBIL2C5Q8YoxEsaE2w4NUf/z+CKUnW1jABTn5jCZm0w5SwHMDZzQNg LrChrU6psyrP4uUgmCmt7UHjfwIFjmpJi0ITY= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <87lixp7xe9.fsf@benfinney.id.au> References: <4de2dab8$0$29996$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <87pqn17z4a.fsf@benfinney.id.au> <87lixp7xe9.fsf@benfinney.id.au> Date: Mon, 30 May 2011 12:37:30 +1000 Subject: Re: scope of function parameters From: Chris Angelico To: python-list@python.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 26 NNTP-Posting-Host: 82.94.164.166 X-Trace: 1306723057 news.xs4all.nl 49176 [::ffff:82.94.164.166]:45269 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net comp.lang.python:6613 On Mon, May 30, 2011 at 12:08 PM, Ben Finney wrote: > Chris Angelico writes: > >> Of course, there's a significant difference between a mailing list >> post and a detailed and well copyedited article. Quite frequently I'll >> ramble on list, in a way quite inappropriate to a publication that >> would be linked to as a "hey guys, here's how it is" page. Different >> media, different standards. > > Right. But Steven specifically asked for constructive criticism, which I > took as permission to treat the referenced post as an article in need of > copy editing :-) Indeed. Was just saying that there are times when you need to get the slug out first, and times when it's okay to be a little less impactual (if that's a word). Although it's still important to deliver your message promptly. Of course, there are other contexts where you specifically do NOT want to give everything away at the beginning. Certain styles of rhetoric demand that you set the scene, build your situation, and only at the climax reveal what it is you are trying to say. Ahh! wordsmithing, how we love thee. Chris Angelico