Path: csiph.com!x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net!usenet.pasdenom.info!aioe.org!feeder.news-service.com!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed6.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.000 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 1.00; '*S*': 0.00; '(although': 0.05; 'parameter': 0.05; 'args': 0.07; 'terry': 0.07; 'variable,': 0.07; 'python': 0.08; '*args': 0.09; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229.12': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; 'received:lo.gmane.org': 0.09; 'subject:parameters': 0.09; 'pm,': 0.10; '>>>': 0.12; 'def': 0.12; 'wrote:': 0.14; '(either': 0.16; 'local.': 0.16; 'reedy': 0.16; 'subject:function': 0.16; 'jan': 0.20; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.21; 'function': 0.25; 'parameters': 0.26; 'functions.': 0.29; 'header:X-Complaints- To:1': 0.32; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.33; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.35; 'assignment': 0.35; 'considered': 0.36; 'assigned': 0.37; 'case': 0.37; 'received:org': 0.38; 'subject:: ': 0.38; 'should': 0.39; 'header:Mime-Version:1': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'exact': 0.65 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: python-list@python.org From: Terry Reedy Subject: Re: scope of function parameters Date: Sun, 29 May 2011 18:20:30 -0400 References: <201105291147.26545.wolfgang@rohdewald.de> <371A067F-540A-46C3-820C-4348B9815AB9@mcgill.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: rain.gmane.org User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.17) Gecko/20110414 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.10 In-Reply-To: <371A067F-540A-46C3-820C-4348B9815AB9@mcgill.ca> X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 25 NNTP-Posting-Host: 82.94.164.166 X-Trace: 1306707649 news.xs4all.nl 49182 [::ffff:82.94.164.166]:58660 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net comp.lang.python:6588 On 5/29/2011 4:19 PM, Henry Olders wrote: > From my perspective, a function parameter should be considered as > having been assigned (although the exact assignment will not be known > until runtime), and as an assigned variable, it should be considered > local. That is exactly the case for Python functions. >>> def f(a,b): c,d = 3,4 print(locals()) >>> f.__code__.co_varnames # local names ('a', 'b', 'c', 'd') >>> f(1,2) {'a': 1, 'c': 3, 'b': 2, 'd': 4} The requirement for a function call is that all parameters get an assignment and that all args are used in assignments (either directly by position or keyname or as part of a *args or **kwds assignment). -- Terry Jan Reedy