Path: csiph.com!x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net!usenet.pasdenom.info!aioe.org!feeder.news-service.com!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed5.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.000 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 1.00; '*S*': 0.00; 'python?': 0.05; 'situation.': 0.05; 'practice,': 0.07; '(defined': 0.09; 'exceptions,': 0.09; 'from:addr:ethan': 0.09; 'from:addr:stoneleaf.us': 0.09; 'from:name:ethan furman': 0.09; 'func': 0.09; 'lately': 0.09; 'message-id:@stoneleaf.us': 0.09; 'received:gator410.hostgator.com': 0.09; '~ethan~': 0.09; 'classes,': 0.13; 'def': 0.15; '(towards': 0.16; '*args):': 0.16; 'blah': 0.16; 'importable': 0.16; 'normally.': 0.16; 'received:72.11': 0.16; 'received:72.11.125': 0.16; 'received:72.11.125.166': 0.16; 'cc:addr:python-list': 0.16; 'written': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.16; 'thanks,': 0.18; 'programming': 0.20; 'cc:no real name:2**0': 0.20; 'stuff': 0.22; 'header:In- Reply-To:1': 0.22; 'etc,': 0.23; 'module,': 0.23; 'paul': 0.28; 'somebody': 0.28; 'separate': 0.28; 'correct': 0.28; 'import': 0.28; 'specifically': 0.29; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.30; 'module': 0.30; 'thanks': 0.30; 'class': 0.30; 'list': 0.32; 'that,': 0.33; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.34; 'primary': 0.36; 'cc:2**1': 0.36; 'but': 0.37; 'something': 0.37; 'some': 0.38; 'accepted': 0.38; 'subject:: ': 0.39; 'else': 0.39; 'define': 0.39; 'needed.': 0.39; 'called': 0.40; 'thinking': 0.40; 'charset:windows-1252': 0.60; 'your': 0.61; 'back': 0.62; 'projects': 0.63; 'bottom': 0.64; 'received:websitewelcome.com': 0.64; 'received:184': 0.67; 'received:69.93': 0.67 Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2011 13:15:52 -0700 From: Ethan Furman User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 (Windows/20070221) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Paul Woolcock Subject: Re: __all__ References: <4e416705$0$29988$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - gator410.hostgator.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - python.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - stoneleaf.us X-BWhitelist: no X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Source-Sender: mail.admailinc.com ([192.168.10.136]) [72.11.125.166]:1075 X-Source-Auth: ethan+stoneleaf.us X-Email-Count: 2 X-Source-Cap: dG9idWs7dG9idWs7Z2F0b3I0MTAuaG9zdGdhdG9yLmNvbQ== Cc: python-list@python.org, Steven D'Aprano X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 48 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1313179180 news.xs4all.nl 23852 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:42410 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net comp.lang.python:11301 Paul Woolcock wrote: > The gurus will have to correct me if this is not an accepted practice, > but I know some projects (Fabric is the one that comes to mind) will > define a submodule specifically for the 'from blah import *' situation. > The submodule would be called "api", or something like that, so you can > do: 'from mymodule.api import *' to separate the items you want to > include in your public api, while still keeping other names importable > by 'import blah' Have I said lately how much I *love* Python? Programming is fun again! Thanks, Paul, that was the clue I needed. Had to do some thinking since dbf is back to a single module, and no longer a package... here's what I came up with: ------------------------------------------------------------- class fake_module(object): def __init__(self, name, *args): self.name = name self.__all__ = [] for func in args: name = func.__name__ self.__dict__[name] = func self.__all__.append(name) def register(self): sys.modules["%s.%s" % (__name__, self.name)] = self ------------------------------------------------------------- then in my module (towards the bottom since I have to have all my functions/classes written that I want to include) I can have fake_module('api', class1, class2, func1, exception1).register() Now somebody else who wants to include the classes, exceptions, etc, that make up the primary part of the dbf module can do from dbf.api import * but help(dbf) will continue to list all the other public utility stuff (defined in dbf.__all__) normally. Thanks to all! ~Ethan~