Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!weretis.net!feeder1.news.weretis.net!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!newsfeed.freenet.ag!news2.euro.net!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.009 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.98; '*S*': 0.00; 'subject:Python': 0.05; '"if': 0.09; 'lawrence': 0.09; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; 'language': 0.14; 'library': 0.15; 'chris,': 0.16; 'received:80.91.229.3': 0.16; 'received:plane.gmane.org': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.17; 'examples': 0.18; 'code,': 0.18; 'code.': 0.20; 'trying': 0.21; 'work.': 0.23; 'statement': 0.23; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.25; 'header:User- Agent:1': 0.26; 'i.e.': 0.27; 'header:X-Complaints-To:1': 0.28; 'lines': 0.28; 'testing.': 0.29; 'this.': 0.29; "i'm": 0.29; 'code': 0.31; 'from:addr:yahoo.co.uk': 0.32; 'could': 0.32; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.33; 'thanks': 0.34; 'along': 0.35; 'received:org': 0.36; 'but': 0.36; 'should': 0.36; 'detail': 0.37; 'subject:: ': 0.38; 'mark': 0.38; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'header:Received:5': 0.40; 'help': 0.40; 'is.': 0.62; 'email addr:gmail.com': 0.63; 'more': 0.63; 'show': 0.63; 'study': 0.66; 'overcome': 0.71; 'confusing': 0.84; 'disorder': 0.84; 'incredibly': 0.96 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: python-list@python.org From: Mark Lawrence Subject: Re: Python Newbie Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2013 23:48:40 +0000 References: <5c262e95-b3a8-4f2a-b752-84b30bf4f81e@googlegroups.com> <52a5d2ab-5cf8-483f-b0b0-15260e4bda2a@googlegroups.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: host-92-22-84-96.as13285.net User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.0; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130215 Thunderbird/17.0.3 In-Reply-To: <52a5d2ab-5cf8-483f-b0b0-15260e4bda2a@googlegroups.com> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 130221-2, 21/02/2013), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 18 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1361490514 news.xs4all.nl 6864 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:35065 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:39496 On 21/02/2013 23:34, piterrr.dolinski@gmail.com wrote: > Hi Chris, > > Thanks for this. Regarding ambiguity, you will never find me write ambiguous code. I don't sabotage my own work. But the reality is that in addition to writing my own code, I have to maintain existing. I find it incredibly confusing then I see a statement along the lines of "if not something" - have to study the code in detail to see what it is testing. > > I could show more examples of what I find confusing in existing code, but I don't intent to troll. I'm just trying to understand the language as it is. I will see how it goes. > > Pete > Perhaps look at code in the standard library to get a feel for things? This should help you overcome OCD, i.e. Obsessive C Disorder :) -- Cheers. Mark Lawrence