Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!weretis.net!feeder1.news.weretis.net!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!newsfeed.freenet.ag!news2.euro.net!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.022 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.96; '*S*': 0.00; 'subject:Python': 0.05; '"if': 0.09; 'to:addr:comp.lang.python': 0.09; 'cc:addr:python- list': 0.10; 'language': 0.14; 'chris,': 0.16; 'examples': 0.18; 'code,': 0.18; 'code.': 0.20; 'trying': 0.21; 'cc:2**0': 0.23; 'work.': 0.23; 'statement': 0.23; 'cc:no real name:2**0': 0.24; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.25; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.25; 'header :User-Agent:1': 0.26; 'lines': 0.28; 'testing.': 0.29; 'this.': 0.29; "i'm": 0.29; 'code': 0.31; 'could': 0.32; 'received:google.com': 0.34; 'thanks': 0.34; 'along': 0.35; 'received:209.85': 0.35; 'but': 0.36; 'detail': 0.37; 'received:209': 0.37; 'received:209.85.216': 0.37; 'subject:: ': 0.38; 'from:no real name:2**0': 0.60; 'more': 0.63; 'show': 0.63; 'study': 0.66; 'confusing': 0.84; 'incredibly': 0.96 X-Received: by 10.49.81.72 with SMTP id y8mr2226803qex.42.1361489671791; Thu, 21 Feb 2013 15:34:31 -0800 (PST) Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2013 15:34:31 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com; posting-host=77.98.108.31; posting-account=KNmrtAoAAAD-o0n7P5clulJjssENqvZt References: <5c262e95-b3a8-4f2a-b752-84b30bf4f81e@googlegroups.com> User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-Google-Web-Client: true X-Google-IP: 77.98.108.31 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Python Newbie From: piterrr.dolinski@gmail.com To: comp.lang.python@googlegroups.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: python-list@python.org X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Message-ID: Lines: 13 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1361490436 news.xs4all.nl 6908 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:33374 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:39495 Hi Chris, Thanks for this. Regarding ambiguity, you will never find me write ambiguou= s code. I don't sabotage my own work. But the reality is that in addition t= o writing my own code, I have to maintain existing. I find it incredibly co= nfusing then I see a statement along the lines of "if not something" - have= to study the code in detail to see what it is testing. I could show more examples of what I find confusing in existing code, but I= don't intent to troll. I'm just trying to understand the language as it is= . I will see how it goes. Pete