Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!weretis.net!feeder1.news.weretis.net!feeder.erje.net!1.eu.feeder.erje.net!border1.nntp.ams1.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed2.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.026 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.95; '*S*': 0.00; 'from:addr:yahoo.co.uk': 0.05; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; 'python': 0.11; '2.7': 0.13; 'things.': 0.15; 'qt,': 0.16; 'received:80.91.229.3': 0.16; 'received:plane.gmane.org': 0.16; 'sqlalchemy': 0.16; 'tkinter.': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.16; 'gui': 0.18; 'language': 0.19; 'lawrence': 0.22; 'tkinter': 0.22; 'seems': 0.24; 'header:In- Reply-To:1': 0.24; 'example': 0.25; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.26; 'header:X-Complaints-To:1': 0.26; 'plain': 0.27; 'adequate': 0.29; 'fast.': 0.29; 'mind,': 0.29; 'certainly': 0.31; 'gets': 0.32; 'knows': 0.32; 'language.': 0.32; 'running': 0.34; 'to:addr :python-list': 0.35; 'something': 0.35; 'problem.': 0.35; 'but': 0.36; 'tool': 0.36; 'there': 0.36; 'should': 0.37; 'subject:: ': 0.37; 'list.': 0.37; 'received:org': 0.38; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'mark': 0.40; 'learn': 0.60; 'course': 0.64; 'our': 0.64; 'decided': 0.65; 'charset:windows-1252': 0.65; 'started.': 0.66; 'bite': 0.84; 'cecil': 0.84; 'pythonistas,': 0.84; 'subject:good': 0.84; 'subject:tool': 0.84; 'westerhof': 0.84; 'graphical': 0.91 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: python-list@python.org From: Mark Lawrence Subject: Re: Camelot a good tool for me Date: Fri, 22 May 2015 15:24:08 +0100 References: <87zj4xoxfd.fsf@Equus.decebal.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: host-78-146-14-138.as13285.net User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.3; WOW64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.7.0 In-Reply-To: <87zj4xoxfd.fsf@Equus.decebal.nl> X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20+ Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 26 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1432304673 news.xs4all.nl 2946 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:47043 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:91042 On 22/05/2015 08:59, Cecil Westerhof wrote: > I want to learn a lot of things. For example writing database and > graphical applications. For database I decided on SQLAlchemy and GUI > on Tkinter. In principal I want to write Python 3 applications. > > I came across Camelot. As I understand it, this is something to write > graphical database applications fast. It works with Qt, but that > should not be a big problem. It is just to get me started. But it > seems only to work with 2.7 and not 3. Is this true? > > Would Camelot be a good tool to get me started, or can I better bite > the bullet and just start with Tkinter and SQLAlchemy? > As others have already said plain SQL is perfectly adequate in many situations. There are also other ORMs with peewee and ponyORM springing straight to my mind, although there's certainly a far longer list. What it gets down to is "horses for courses" and you're the only person who (hopefully) knows the course you're running :) -- My fellow Pythonistas, ask not what our language can do for you, ask what you can do for our language. Mark Lawrence