Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!news.redatomik.org!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed1a.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.105 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.79; '*S*': 0.00; 'english.': 0.04; 'c++,': 0.07; 'tries': 0.07; '[1]:': 0.09; 'lawrence': 0.09; 'language,': 0.12; '[1].': 0.16; 'distinct': 0.16; 'filename:fname piece:signature': 0.16; 'just,': 0.16; 'none.': 0.16; 'noone': 0.16; 'received:78.47': 0.16; 'language': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'discussion': 0.18; 'fit': 0.20; '>>>': 0.22; 'header:User- Agent:1': 0.23; 'stick': 0.24; '(or': 0.24; 'law.': 0.26; 'header :In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'wonder': 0.29; 'said,': 0.30; "i'm": 0.30; 'url:wiki': 0.31; 'closer': 0.31; 'minor': 0.31; 'url:wikipedia': 0.31; 'anyone': 0.31; 'could': 0.34; 'but': 0.35; 'there': 0.35; 'are,': 0.36; 'leads': 0.36; 'like,': 0.36; 'words,': 0.36; 'url:org': 0.36; 'should': 0.36; 'changing': 0.37; 'two': 0.37; 'being': 0.38; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.38; 'fact': 0.38; 'rather': 0.38; 'anything': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'how': 0.40; 'even': 0.60; 'expression': 0.60; 'voice': 0.60; 'world.': 0.61; 'simply': 0.61; 'kind': 0.63; 'our': 0.64; 'stand': 0.64; 'american': 0.66; 'due': 0.66; 'between': 0.67; 'believe': 0.68; 'fact,': 0.69; 'wish': 0.70; 'to,': 0.72; 'dialect': 0.84; 'me).': 0.84; 'tough,': 0.84; 'british': 0.87; 'man.': 0.91; 'hand,': 0.93; 'refuse': 0.93; 'serious': 0.97 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=wielicki.name; s=k001.sol; t=1425293683; bh=GhFAc7dkvDTACHzaLUfQyxdPRnRRQQU1KgaLsdKkgAk=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To; b=tO21lfYmeiRIZb1BGmaXT5X68sTaA49eLlxBHZUCgbjALxwi8x4NbRnGcGYmdSTGt 7yXIDpyKafBUz6kqZ/4ewulXY19UHHvU4IhdPQFXXi45S4Psor72EqrbxkttDn4hrb OE5agST9xaouAssiEy8yHEslPshM66jb5U2+Ni4/MQq/WnxDVpyG+3UaVkPcci9pXi b5qZhg0sVg+u5hi0GGuZv2ofXXSnmHGYDGmtTFS53ItAq+wGz7VV9zNYWJQtiS0BOb LDLjsKUwpHbcyiNNbDQ22UXk+hRhgq1OfSY2Zq+OD3AsQFp0hfsG0luCAm9PNQ9eyZ I8qS2s+rv/dDA== Date: Mon, 02 Mar 2015 11:54:40 +0100 From: Jonas Wielicki User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: python-list@python.org Subject: Uncanny valley of languages References: <87ioem8ftg.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> <54f2c9c6$0$12991$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <8761ak7kxm.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> <87sido6491.fsf@elektro.pacujo.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="lIuVPeutoiTp7iH7gc5smgLVB8n5UOtBi" X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.19 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 83 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1425293692 news.xs4all.nl 2859 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:32882 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:86714 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --lIuVPeutoiTp7iH7gc5smgLVB8n5UOtBi Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 01.03.2015 18:34, Mark Lawrence wrote: > On 01/03/2015 17:01, Marko Rauhamaa wrote: >> Mark Lawrence : >> >>> Are you suggesting that we Brits have a single "home accent"? If you= >>> are, you need to stand up as your voice is rather muffled. That by t= he >>> way is a British expression that may or may not be used around the >>> Commonwealth. Should we unlearn it to fit in with American English? = Two >>> chances, zero or none. >> >> What you (or I) speak in our native surroundings is up to you (and me)= =2E >> >> However, when I exhange software engineering ideas with you, I wish bo= th >> of us could stick to American English. >> >> >> Marko >> >=20 > Well I'm not going to, so tough, or is that togh? Colour, harbour, > tyre, antogonise are the way I spell words, and I'm not changing the > habits of a lifetime simply because I'm on a technical site. >=20 I wonder whether this discussion has anything to do with the Uncanny Valley [1]. Anyone who is not native to some dialect of English just has to learn that language it if they want to be taken serious in the SE world. That=E2=80=99s kind of a law. On the other hand, there are some Br= itish refuse to learn a few minor adaptions to their native tongue, while others have to trade their native tongue completely. This leads me to believe that due to the fact that there are so many similarities between en_US and en_GB (they are even closer than C and C++, which are already taken as being the same language with dialects by some), it feels as if en_US was dictating them how to live their own language, while in fact, they are distinct and noone tries to dictate anything about en_GB. That said, I also prefer the British spelling. But that is just, like, my opinion, man. regards, jwi [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uncanny_valley --lIuVPeutoiTp7iH7gc5smgLVB8n5UOtBi Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1 iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJU9EFwAAoJEMBiAyWXYliKvg4P/RiAi+rICLGP7smRQacAx6yw bJdUhpeAnKBQod7eCo901NsLwnAPBXKWDa3GEIT1EaLrxF5RW11rNvYCS4ziPC5G l01I2kuZbAqwxpbFkdVXok/TW1Z66cVICVR4JIDHweNmkozVDNFw2cVS2wDBYHlQ kkW+hsyh1TPaFMMSOqz1TLKS48feitHQNmOznfOrlg6Q1WWfy3UxC+J1YRuulDrk cmUE48VA0Q/maSDWJ1mfURWgbZkoKMHI6Xkx8WEF+UagwjQH7MNd4BTv+P9J+DI6 IxNkm41dJhhwzKsTqlewS/9EyxnlsWm9l3fBfheLI9o5pStwjtgSsh4U8i9DxIrL Y4trdjs0ZrlKOJ1SWVZ40lTdpKPgDnIHwHBVWzOIDQ90ZfuaKV0mT5hjcRXGDeSZ Sz/kisJBjp2uM9lnjwvzI0Nak+mIYmDdlh3zYSIZQtX6nD9rHUncwBzwWZA/6fZV fErMIe+agXna/+wBC1QN3+A0cljUJsAKTyhubFF5hAdlkrsbJP53n/jh61TaVTnr HtgXckf5swcURCqKKxTTvPfiv79uIcnVEuRQgHf2Ryz5M0cn++kwISbeGCOWSkyz N6tqVFjqonBpZvYVBiTRwRsCn/Mg/Zw3PagG7voBkZd9c4iOJxScT4/AfvFTbpOt YgTBoSEt+5o1m6mRIfGY =wvjq -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --lIuVPeutoiTp7iH7gc5smgLVB8n5UOtBi--