Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!weretis.net!feeder1.news.weretis.net!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!xlned.com!feeder1.xlned.com!news2.euro.net!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.033 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.93; '*S*': 0.00; 'exception': 0.03; 'true,': 0.04; 'gpl': 0.07; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; 'underlying': 0.09; 'steve': 0.13; 'iteration': 0.16; 'kern': 0.16; 'received:80.91.229.3': 0.16; 'received:plane.gmane.org': 0.16; 'subject:GUI': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.17; 'versions': 0.20; 'either.': 0.22; 'interpret': 0.22; 'proprietary': 0.23; 'allows': 0.25; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.25; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.26; "doesn't": 0.28; 'header:X-Complaints-To:1': 0.28; 'about.': 0.29; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.33; 'hi,': 0.33; 'changed': 0.34; 'robert': 0.35; 'doing': 0.35; 'subject:?': 0.35; 'there': 0.35; 'received:org': 0.36; 'really': 0.36; 'but': 0.36; 'previous': 0.37; 'quite': 0.37; 'subject:: ': 0.38; 'things': 0.38; 'description': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'apply': 0.39; 'application': 0.40; 'header:Received:5': 0.40; 'end': 0.40; 'your': 0.60; 'skip:u 10': 0.60; 'free': 0.61; 'needing': 0.62; 'situation': 0.62; 'different': 0.63; 'world': 0.63; 'our': 0.65; 'license': 0.65; 'matter.': 0.65; 'subject:there': 0.65; 'talking': 0.66; 'believe': 0.69; 'commercial': 0.73; 'eco': 0.84; 'nokia': 0.84; 'terrible': 0.84; 'received:86': 0.93 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: python-list@python.org From: Robert Kern Subject: Re: Is there a graphical GUI builder? Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2013 21:16:09 +0000 References: <51247EDD.3010500@gmail.com> <51259854.9040909@gmail.com> <95B0E869-C5BE-4179-BFF9-A112A128C388@rgbaz.eu> <5125F48C.6000007@gmail.com> <20130221170522.GF22457@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: cpc2-cmbg17-2-0-cust347.5-4.cable.virginmedia.com User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.8; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130216 Thunderbird/17.0.3 In-Reply-To: <20130221170522.GF22457@localhost> X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 28 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1361481381 news.xs4all.nl 6945 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:35827 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:39459 On 2013-02-21 17:05, Roland Koebler wrote: > Hi, > >> The situation has not substantively changed, but your description of >> it is not really accurate. There was and still is a "commercial >> license" which allows for completely proprietary development without >> needing to allow end users to relink the application against >> user-supplied versions of Qt. The free license is the LGPL, > that's not quite correct; things have changed 2009 and Qt now has three > different licenses: > - commercial licence > - GPL (+GPL exceptions) > - LGPL + Qt LGPL Exception (because of inline-functions/templates) > since Qt 4.5 True, there are three options, but this was the case under Nokia too, which was the time period that Steve was talking about. His description that "Qt isn't 'free' (depending on what you are going to be doing with it)" doesn't apply to this either. Or the previous iteration under late-period TrollTech, for that matter. -- Robert Kern "I have come to believe that the whole world is an enigma, a harmless enigma that is made terrible by our own mad attempt to interpret it as though it had an underlying truth." -- Umberto Eco