Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!weretis.net!feeder4.news.weretis.net!newsreader4.netcologne.de!news.netcologne.de!xlned.com!feeder1.xlned.com!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed5.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.036 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.93; '*S*': 0.00; 'received:209.85.223': 0.03; 'needed,': 0.05; 'subject:language': 0.09; 'thread': 0.11; 'subject:python': 0.11; ':-)': 0.13; 'bracket': 0.16; 'finney': 0.16; 'imo,': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.17; 'discussion': 0.20; 'community.': 0.20; "i'd": 0.22; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.25; 'appear': 0.26; '(which': 0.26; '[1]': 0.27; 'message- id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.27; 'subject:list': 0.28; '"who': 0.29; 'instances': 0.33; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.33; 'received:google.com': 0.34; 'clear': 0.35; 'ben': 0.35; 'especially': 0.35; 'received:209.85': 0.35; 'there': 0.35; 'but': 0.36; 'october': 0.37; 'received:209': 0.37; 'subject:: ': 0.38; 'some': 0.38; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'subject:-': 0.40; 'header:Received:5': 0.40; 'think': 0.40; 'bring': 0.62; 'firm': 0.62; 'effective': 0.63; 'more': 0.63; 'making': 0.64; 'here': 0.65; 'our': 0.65; '\xe2\x80\x93': 0.75; 'hostile': 0.84; 'responses': 0.93 X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:x-originating-ip:in-reply-to:references:from :date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:x-gm-message-state; bh=WmEMt1xm//jj9LEs5i8UZ1BRVzYNHX6fUdinbL+Cet8=; b=IajmgcjHSVpHkEZcg3qLBn6UMr/sfAQGqjrcEMdKO6D531FkKPhwySuqJCg4fN9Y2x 1e1nfVpCFr3CsAsdCsg02NyVdYzx0cO3O0zi1V60mrswMjRWbwvg1Zmi45FDODxxFo4L +J76kx4R4NzPWx5QYSwd9224/l6VmUi5G67anDl0yAKkJS82egWzrA98bp1drcZ8zXaO PnswmEE733hutYIiDqVLuASduoIa0SONoNinaoBfgVwJ9t+09ySfgGb4usodWEj9e8dt WfubPm0mxqP57Gd4sEGaeICyWPpCW9k5c5abyVslBLECf+/qy+n9IjMUnGSP3R0JO3x+ KI3w== MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: z@etiol.net X-Originating-IP: [190.104.29.21] In-Reply-To: <7wr4p0btr3.fsf@benfinney.id.au> References: <7wr4p0btr3.fsf@benfinney.id.au> From: Zero Piraeus Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2012 21:50:30 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: PkroGEgctmhogcEPCugkfjcmT5g Subject: Re: Aggressive language on python-list To: python-list@python.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQlHQsC8Cu8gw3K83w9N1dZGca1k23Std+tKJWSl0kLBkuYhcmlYBwa3/T61N7z9/vM3h4Hp X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 19 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1350265853 news.xs4all.nl 6893 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:53204 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:31276 : On 14 October 2012 17:58, Ben Finney wrote: > What's needed, IMO, is a difficult balance: there needs to be calm, > low-volume, but firm response to instances of hostile behaviour, making > clear by demonstration =E2=80=93 especially to the people only observing = the > discussion =E2=80=93 that such hostility is unwanted and not to be tolera= ted in > our community. Yep. I also think such responses are more effective coming from people who already have some weight[1] around here (which was part of the reason I was hesitant to bring it up myself). Good to see a few names I'd put in that bracket appear in this thread :-) -[]z. [1] "Who are you calling fat?" replies in 3, 2 ...