Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!weretis.net!feeder1.news.weretis.net!feeder.erje.net!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed5.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.002 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 1.00; '*S*': 0.00; 'binary': 0.05; 'nntp': 0.09; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; 'subject:characters': 0.09; 'vast': 0.09; 'subject:not': 0.11; 'do,': 0.15; 'encoding': 0.15; 'base64,': 0.16; 'encodings': 0.16; 'oct': 0.16; 'received:80.91.229.3': 0.16; 'received:plane.gmane.org': 0.16; 'subject:program': 0.16; 'subject:unicode': 0.16; 'usenet': 0.16; 'www': 0.16; 'saying': 0.18; 'raw': 0.27; 'separate': 0.27; 'format,': 0.27; 'newer': 0.27; 'header:X-Complaints-To:1': 0.28; "d'aprano": 0.29; 'steven': 0.29; 'maybe': 0.29; '(and': 0.32; 'file': 0.32; 'getting': 0.33; 'url:home': 0.33; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.33; 'text': 0.34; 'along': 0.35; 'too.': 0.35; 'something': 0.35; 'there': 0.35; 'received:org': 0.36; 'but': 0.36; 'charset:us- ascii': 0.36; 'subject:: ': 0.38; 'some': 0.38; 'nothing': 0.38; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'skip:" 10': 0.40; 'header:Received:5': 0.40; 'containing': 0.61; 'dedicated': 0.61; 'free': 0.61; 'provide': 0.62; 'visit': 0.64; 'websites': 0.66; 'dennis': 0.91; 'received:108': 0.91 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: python-list@python.org From: Dennis Lee Bieber Subject: Re: pyw program not displaying unicode characters properly Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2012 21:41:51 -0400 Organization: > Bestiaria Support Staff < References: <87626dc6oq.fsf@dpt-info.u-strasbg.fr> <507b280e$0$6512$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: adsl-108-79-221-211.dsl.klmzmi.sbcglobal.net X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 3.3/32.846 X-No-Archive: YES X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 25 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1350265325 news.xs4all.nl 6915 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:47684 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:31274 On 14 Oct 2012 21:01:03 GMT, Steven D'Aprano declaimed the following in gmane.comp.python.general: > > "Usenet has no attachments" -- that's like saying that the Web has no > advertisements. Maybe the websites you visit have no advertisements, but > there's a *vast* (and often disturbing) part of the WWW that has > advertisements, some sites are nothing but advertisements. > > And so it is with Usenet, there is a vast (and often disturbing) area of > Usenet containing attachments, and often nothing but attachments. The > vast volume of all these attachments are such that it is getting hard to > find ISPs that provide free access to binary newsgroups, but some still > do, and dedicated for-fee Usenet providers do too. Classically, NNTP did not have "attachments" as seen in MIME email. It did have "binaries" in some encoding -- UUE, BASE64, or some newer format, but these encodings were the raw body of the post(s), not something "attached" as a separate file along with a text body. -- Wulfraed Dennis Lee Bieber AF6VN wlfraed@ix.netcom.com HTTP://wlfraed.home.netcom.com/