Path: csiph.com!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!not-for-mail From: "D'Arcy J.M. Cain" Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Subject: Re: Unicode failure Date: Sat, 5 Dec 2015 01:08:27 -0500 Organization: Vybe Networks Inc. Lines: 37 Message-ID: References: <20151204130738.76313c43@imp> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de +wyshxyArR+YDukNITcRMwCm00kGhLXCX/Lokvgzl6fA== Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.000 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 1.00; '*S*': 0.00; '-*-': 0.07; '-0500': 0.07; 'bytes.': 0.07; 'postgresql': 0.07; 'skip:/ 10': 0.07; 'utf-8': 0.07; 'cc:addr:python-list': 0.09; 'assumed': 0.09; 'coding:': 0.09; 'str,': 0.09; 'python': 0.10; 'encoding': 0.15; 'display,': 0.16; 'fail,': 0.16; 'netbsd': 0.16; 'received:io': 0.16; 'received:psf.io': 0.16; 'redundant,': 0.16; 'reedy': 0.16; 'subject:Unicode': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.16; 'windows': 0.20; '2015': 0.20; 'developer': 0.20; 'cc:2**0': 0.20; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.20; '3.x': 0.22; 'complete,': 0.22; 'cc:no real name:2**0': 0.22; 'dec': 0.23; 'unix': 0.24; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.24; 'connected': 0.27; 'fri,': 0.27; 'mostly': 0.27; 'device': 0.28; 'away.': 0.29; 'itself,': 0.29; 'windows,': 0.29; 'character': 0.29; 'print': 0.30; 'checked': 0.31; 'guess': 0.31; 'rules': 0.31; 'returned': 0.32; 'idle': 0.33; 'right?': 0.33; 'true.': 0.33; 'windows.': 0.33; 'running': 0.34; 'text': 0.35; 'unicode': 0.35; 'but': 0.36; 'should': 0.36; 'pm,': 0.36; 'subject:: ': 0.37; 'display': 0.37; 'thought': 0.37; 'data': 0.39; 'sure': 0.39; 'entire': 0.61; 'default': 0.61; 'within': 0.64; 'soon': 0.65; '3.4': 0.84; 'received:98.158': 0.84; 'belt': 0.91 In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.9.3 (GTK+ 2.24.23; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20+ Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:100029 On Fri, 4 Dec 2015 18:28:22 -0500 Terry Reedy wrote: > On 12/4/2015 1:07 PM, D'Arcy J.M. Cain wrote: > > I thought that going to Python 3.4 would solve my Unicode issues >=20 > Within Python itself, that should be mostly true. As soon as you > send text to a display, the rules of the display device take over. OK but my display (xterm) can display those characters. I see it when I dump unicode text from my database. > > #! /usr/bin/python3 > > # -*- coding: UTF-8 -*- >=20 > Redundant, as this is the default for 3.x I assumed so but belt and suspenders, right? > Tk widgets, and hence IDLE windows, will print any character from > \u0000 to \uffff without raising, even if the result is blank or =EF=BF= =BF. > Higher codepoints fail, but allowing the entire BMP is better than > any Windows codepage. Not sure I follow all this but to be clear, I am not using Tk, Idle or Windows. I guess I should have mentioned that I am on Unix but I thought that the hash-bang would have given that away. To be complete, I am running xterms on Xubuntu connected to NetBSD 7.0. The data is coming from a PostgreSQL 9.3.5 database. I am using a beta of PyGreSQL 5.0 (I am the lead developer for it) and I checked and the type returned is str, not bytes. The database encoding is UTF8. --=20 D'Arcy J.M. Cain Vybe Networks Inc. http://www.VybeNetworks.com/ IM:darcy@Vex.Net VoIP: sip:darcy@VybeNetworks.com