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From: Ian Kelly <ian.g.kelly@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2011 11:26:51 -0600
Subject: Re: [OT] Free software versus software idea patents
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On Sun, Apr 10, 2011 at 6:04 PM, harrismh777 <harrismh777@charter.net> wrot=
e:
> The deal with motive number (2) is that there are fewer and fewer teams w=
ho
> are concerned with interoperability. For instance (my team), we moved our
> stuff to gnulinux based systems and dumped Microsoft completely... we hav=
e
> no need for them at all (they're dead). The Linux Foundation president ma=
de
> a splash the other day by saying that bashing Microsoft was like kicking =
a
> puppy (the server cloud war is over, and Microsoft lost... big). The desk=
top
> is all that is left... and that is dying... rapidly. Their lockin is well
> entrenched (like Borg implants ) but the number of mom & pops ( like my
> entire extended family, for instance) who are moving to Ubuntu (themselve=
s)
> is astounding! It will not be long and Microsoft will die... and none too
> soon.

So what is that number?  Anecdotes are unreliable; I would like to see
the actual data.  The only non-techie I personally know who uses Linux
is my wife, and she only uses it because it's what's installed at
home.  My brother-in-law was a Linux fan at one time but has
regressed.

> =A0 =A0IE is dead. It is flat dead... almost nobody is using it... not ev=
en
> die-hard Windows gaming fanboys... we're on our way to freedom.

I'm sorry, but that is patently false.  Just look at the actual data:

http://www.getclicky.com/marketshare/global/web-browsers/
http://marketshare.hitslink.com/report.aspx?qprid=3D0&qptimeframe=3DM#
http://gs.statcounter.com/#browser-ww-monthly-201103-201103-bar
http://www.w3counter.com/globalstats.php?year=3D2011&month=3D3

Depending on the source, IE's market share is anywhere from 39% to
56%, and all of those sources list it higher than Firefox or any other
single browser.  To say "IE is dead" is either prevarication or
unsubstantiated wishful thinking.

Cheers,
Ian