Path: csiph.com!x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net!usenet.pasdenom.info!aioe.org!feeder.news-service.com!news2.euro.net!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.003 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.99; '*S*': 0.00; 'bug': 0.02; 'folks': 0.04; 'subject:Python': 0.06; 'from:addr:ethan': 0.09; 'from:addr:stoneleaf.us': 0.09; 'from:name:ethan furman': 0.09; 'message-id:@stoneleaf.us': 0.09; 'mi,': 0.09; 'received:gator410.hostgator.com': 0.09; '~ethan~': 0.09; 'received:72.11': 0.16; 'received:72.11.125': 0.16; 'received:72.11.125.166': 0.16; 'subject:() ': 0.16; 'subject:considered': 0.16; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.21; 'happen.': 0.23; 'least,': 0.23; 'objects': 0.23; 'suspect': 0.25; 'not.': 0.26; 'anyone': 0.32; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.33; 'that,': 0.34; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.35; 'issue': 0.37; 'but': 0.38; 'docs': 0.38; 'subject:: ': 0.38; 'should': 0.39; 'perhaps': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'waiting': 0.61; 'designed': 0.65; 'eyes': 0.66; 'subject:!': 0.67; 'received:websitewelcome.com': 0.67; 'received:69.93': 0.67; 'hand,': 0.74; 'complex,': 0.84; 'received:gateway04.websitewelcome.com': 0.91 Date: Fri, 27 May 2011 15:24:59 -0700 From: Ethan Furman User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 (Windows/20070221) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Python Subject: Re: Python's super() considered super! References: <1f0d88bd-e2e6-4780-9d9e-784fb3f53837@k3g2000prl.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - gator410.hostgator.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - python.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - stoneleaf.us X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Source-Sender: mail.admailinc.com ([192.168.10.136]) [72.11.125.166]:2391 X-Source-Auth: ethan+stoneleaf.us X-Email-Count: 1 X-Source-Cap: dG9idWs7dG9idWs7Z2F0b3I0MTAuaG9zdGdhdG9yLmNvbQ== X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 9 NNTP-Posting-Host: 82.94.164.166 X-Trace: 1306534340 news.xs4all.nl 49042 [::ffff:82.94.164.166]:43127 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net comp.lang.python:6435 I suspect the larger issue is that Multiple Inheritance is complex, but folks don't appreciate that. Ask anyone about meta-classes and their eyes bug-out, but MI? Simple! NOT. On the other hand, perhaps the docs should declare that the built-in objects are not designed for MI, so that that, at least, would be one less bug waiting to happen. ~Ethan~