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Date: Fri, 8 Nov 2013 13:27:17 +1100
Subject: Re: Algorithm that makes maximum compression of completly diffused data.
From: Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com>
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On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 1:24 PM, Mark Janssen <dreamingforward@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 6:17 PM, Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 1:05 PM,  <jonas.thornvall@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> I guess what matter is how fast an algorithm can encode and decode a big number, at least if you want to use it for very big sets of random data, or losless video compression?
>>
>> I don't care how fast. I care about the laws of physics :) You can't
>> stuff more data into less space without losing some of it.
>
> Technically, the universe could expand temporarily or reconfigure to
> allow it; the question is who or what will have to shift out to allow
> it?

... okay, I bow to your superior power. If you can make the very
*UNIVERSE* bow to your compression algorithm, I have to admit defeat.
:D

ChrisA