Path: csiph.com!x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net!usenet.pasdenom.info!selfless.tophat.at!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed6.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.057 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.89; '*S*': 0.00; 'subject:Python': 0.06; 'header,': 0.09; "it'd": 0.09; 'pornography': 0.09; 'am,': 0.14; 'received:209.85.214.174': 0.14; 'received:mail- iw0-f174.google.com': 0.14; 'wrote:': 0.14; '*real*': 0.16; '*really*': 0.16; 'angelico': 0.16; 'archives.': 0.16; 'coded': 0.16; 'from:addr:rosuav': 0.16; 'from:name:chris angelico': 0.16; 'subject:() ': 0.16; 'subject:considered': 0.16; 'worried': 0.16; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.21; 'clicked': 0.23; '(or': 0.24; 'pointed': 0.25; 'message-id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.28; 'received:209.85.214': 0.28; 'urls': 0.28; 'sat,': 0.29; 'facility': 0.29; 'this.': 0.31; 'app': 0.32; 'to:addr:python- list': 0.33; 'lines': 0.33; "i've": 0.33; 'chris': 0.34; 'characters': 0.34; 'fail': 0.34; 'safely': 0.35; 'quite': 0.36; 'data.': 0.37; 'takes': 0.37; 'received:google.com': 0.37; 'something': 0.37; 'received:209.85': 0.37; 'could': 0.38; 'but': 0.38; 'subject:: ': 0.38; 'some': 0.38; 'client': 0.39; 'received:209': 0.39; 'link.': 0.39; 'requests': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'really': 0.40; 'more': 0.60; 'you.': 0.62; 'grab': 0.63; 'man': 0.66; 'subject:!': 0.67; 'destination': 0.67; 'easy.': 0.67; 'news': 0.71; 'forum': 0.71; 'article': 0.76; 'dead': 0.80; 'lose': 0.84; 'arrested': 0.84; 'blind': 0.84; 'going,': 0.84; 'besides,': 0.91; 'url:item': 0.91 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=EZw0Ntno7pj5sZEvjKlZEWmXrebzFOpqmmkKY3S7LPw=; b=SsKHptaanxJXm4S0Ybo47FSVANqj/AktyvNHYNvt/RrEDNgq9g3oLhLs06o8JHVKNy 1A6FlJcI6HcuiWWuqB9SeX+xRCwIsJ8F+sNr2XJMGjK7tHRjExFsLLHPulS7837MAYtC wrAsECdwHwYXHPL1Qwikyk/XkuzcR6g3S/R5Q= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=gyUkHKvK0NdfCmnwCrp66JlDoqO/eWOHxFb6Gg9weOLWs2qZYlvLBOljExtgZO4N/r S7gVat6/0WIIjdHVa8F3POIWEt4IrSK2Fsu5H4WyuXIyewCbebft8xbBrTDZQ4ffqmtV bRxWCkDwyYWWTk8b2YCS79NSiy/eoUPNe49Zo= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <0604E20B5F6F2F4784C9C8C71C5DD4DD2DA44B1B2C@EMARC112VS01.exchad.jpmchase.net> References: <1f0d88bd-e2e6-4780-9d9e-784fb3f53837@k3g2000prl.googlegroups.com> <87wrhcapm2.fsf@benfinney.id.au> <0604E20B5F6F2F4784C9C8C71C5DD4DD2DA44B1B2C@EMARC112VS01.exchad.jpmchase.net> Date: Sat, 28 May 2011 04:40:17 +1000 Subject: Re: Python's super() considered super! From: Chris Angelico To: python-list@python.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 27 NNTP-Posting-Host: 82.94.164.166 X-Trace: 1306521628 news.xs4all.nl 49044 [::ffff:82.94.164.166]:36883 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net comp.lang.python:6423 On Sat, May 28, 2011 at 4:10 AM, Prasad, Ramit wrote: >>>We also, though, need *real* URLs. Blind URLs through obfuscation >>>services have their uses, but surely not in a forum like this. The real >>>URL is . > > I remember reading a news article where a man was arrested (or was it fir= ed) for pornography because he clicked a link. I would *REALLY* prefer not = to be 4chan-ed into jail (or fired) because I could not safely tell what a = shortened URL really pointed to. Besides, shortened URLs do not live as lon= g and are more likely to fail when people search the archives. I've seen FAR more dead links than dead URL shortening services. It's a lot more likely that the destination will go down than that the tinyurl service will lose its data. If you're worried about where you're going, grab a URL renderer; TinyURL.com has "preview mode" which you can set with a cookie, and for others, all you need is something which takes a URL off the clipboard, requests it, gets the Location: header, and puts that on the clipboard for you. I coded such a facility into my MUD client (RosMud), because shortened URLs are important when lines are limited to 80 characters (less some overhead); it'd be quite easy to build a little Python-GTK or Python-TK app that gives you a nice window and makes it easy. Chris Angelico