Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!weretis.net!feeder1.news.weretis.net!feeder.erje.net!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed6.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.029 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.94; '*S*': 0.00; 'newbie': 0.05; 'see.': 0.07; 'solution,': 0.09; 'accounts?': 0.16; 'agreed,': 0.16; 'bit.': 0.16; 'from:addr:rosuav': 0.16; 'from:name:chris angelico': 0.16; 'helps.': 0.16; 'oct': 0.16; 'troll': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.17; 'admin': 0.18; 'bit': 0.21; 'received:209.85.214.174': 0.21; 'second': 0.24; 'header:In-Reply- To:1': 0.25; 'url:wiki': 0.26; 'am,': 0.27; 'important.': 0.27; 'message-id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.27; 'chris': 0.28; "people's": 0.29; 'though.': 0.29; 'url:wikipedia': 0.29; "i'm": 0.29; '(including': 0.30; 'gets': 0.32; 'avoiding': 0.33; 'defense': 0.33; "he's": 0.33; 'problem': 0.33; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.33; 'everyone': 0.33; 'that,': 0.34; 'received:google.com': 0.34; 'wrong': 0.34; 'done': 0.34; 'options:': 0.35; 'received:209.85': 0.35; 'but': 0.36; 'url:org': 0.36; 'anything': 0.36; 'october': 0.37; 'does': 0.37; 'option': 0.37; 'two': 0.37; 'received:209': 0.37; 'subject:: ': 0.38; 'nothing': 0.38; 'url:en': 0.38; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'received:209.85.214': 0.39; 'header:Received:5': 0.40; 'first': 0.61; "you'll": 0.62; 'helps': 0.63; 'effective': 0.63; 'more': 0.63; 'delegate': 0.65; 'frustrated': 0.65; 'wanting': 0.65; 'newbie,': 0.84; 'angry': 0.93 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=8pEuhTLggAjgJ9+Aoa53DsEBWE27tLB6UseD4zUvZgc=; b=Hn9T+ghYG98QTd9O0xrrhnk4MOhJnithjQ33QPRSSbv1TI5e1di7j7wicgLJ9jAw2C fzoSc6S/Bca60Fv9LTstwxutbpEQuEq+c+x13doGo+4I6rcIVqdBeMKjcbN67OnGVoEJ 0mhKfqWc0JE4uRWeuhLXXFw03YYsJCpM6yGjp44ZR9Xpuz6uUZElShODmMaTiwXq2gdv FO0s213+y6CCejVXkim+zep27Wj2epOnsYKRKPvs7fCxl5hdQXzg/uOVwjv61fZIXeVO GgBIvRS9CWBDPd4dSse562aell9CgCCGjmXHNvYhxje7d1xLBsh5c1DKdd8DfsEUvdp8 uOVQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <50796ce5$0$6574$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <20121013094404.72241509d6ca6697e67d9419@gmail.com> <20121013095811.99486d56a423727c80ce7318@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2012 09:41:13 +1100 Subject: Re: readline trick needed From: Chris Angelico To: python-list@python.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 37 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1350168076 news.xs4all.nl 6916 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:58541 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:31227 On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 9:25 AM, Joshua Landau wrote: > On 13 October 2012 22:44, Chris Angelico wrote: >> >> On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 8:31 AM, Joshua Landau >> wrote: >> > With two irritants (including 88888), is it not advisable that >> > python-list >> > gets an admin to block these accounts? Even if it does nothing more than >> > slow them, that's something. >> >> That's what killfiles are for. You have two options: >> >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kill_file >> http://bofh.ch/bofh/bsmh2.html >> >> The first option is not perfect, as you'll still see replies that >> quote such people's posts. The second has a few issues with local law >> enforcement, but other than that, is a very effective means of >> avoiding seeing their posts. > > > The first's no good for protecting the newbies though. If troll flames > newbie, then I want to be able to assure newbie that he's not done anything > wrong or stupid. > > The second is a bit better, definitely, but what I'm wanting is to delegate > these tasks to python-list's admins. I'm lazy, see. Agreed, defending newbies is important. But not everyone gets frustrated at trolls. Those who don't, don't bother to killfile them, and can respond in defense of the newbies. Also, if two or three non-trolls respond to the original post, the angry troll is only one of several, which helps dilute the problem a bit. Still not a solution, but it helps. ChrisA