Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!weretis.net!feeder1.news.weretis.net!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!newsfeed.freenet.ag!news2.euro.net!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.001 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 1.00; '*S*': 0.00; 'licenses': 0.04; 'open- source': 0.04; '21,': 0.07; 'gpl': 0.07; 'so?': 0.07; 'apache,': 0.09; 'received:mail-vc0-f174.google.com': 0.09; 'rules.': 0.09; 'steve': 0.13; 'from:addr:rosuav': 0.16; 'from:name:chris angelico': 0.16; 'mit,': 0.16; "steve's": 0.16; 'subject:GUI': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.17; 'thu,': 0.17; '>>>': 0.18; 'developer': 0.19; 'feb': 0.19; 'fairly': 0.21; 'proprietary': 0.23; 'header :In-Reply-To:1': 0.25; 'am,': 0.27; 'message-id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.27; 'correct': 0.28; 'argue': 0.29; 'freedom,': 0.29; 'implies': 0.29; 'received:209.85.220.174': 0.29; 'that.': 0.30; 'expect': 0.31; 'code': 0.31; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.33; "can't": 0.34; 'received:google.com': 0.34; 'doing': 0.35; 'pm,': 0.35; 'received:209.85.220': 0.35; 'subject:?': 0.35; 'received:209.85': 0.35; 'michael': 0.36; 'but': 0.36; 'depends': 0.36; 'received:209': 0.37; 'subject:: ': 0.38; 'description': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'personally': 0.61; 'free': 0.61; 'license': 0.65; 'subject:there': 0.65; '2013': 0.84; 'simmons': 0.84 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=Sw9Z6+KfM2o8AF2CgPmzb9Cv66HMtDvcNWoWyok0apo=; b=fdbebuMU+F+3xvqbgLEEA3RSRkwOFRpbT4r/ytZuRIm99hUX3Ypn86sI2W5X3/aMMh xncX/OsXOJ0bBgdW2wRNlP7djzQbNTDH57rF0jBmMCDlyDwuME2oOwNQ5oB8n4btXMGs /vVwc5n7KBtIkUT+0Us8To+qU8qo8CiLo8lcg0spGe8FfVamXi5y7O4R+wwd8tn+8n1u wyh2GwP39+kYX6kjcA4GwJI76g+5QxVBoLrcN/BLW2fqA62OJPrVVzRlj8fFhvzPFIqa 5HmXbtVIJGQ0v3niBBNx1HTBeGkvFBbBDs8Iq/a80QVpZbQuwQujOLMW/KnOJeRznAB9 zg2A== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.58.97.165 with SMTP id eb5mr31219825veb.40.1361441284518; Thu, 21 Feb 2013 02:08:04 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <95B0E869-C5BE-4179-BFF9-A112A128C388@rgbaz.eu> References: <51247EDD.3010500@gmail.com> <51259854.9040909@gmail.com> <95B0E869-C5BE-4179-BFF9-A112A128C388@rgbaz.eu> Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2013 21:08:04 +1100 Subject: Re: Is there a graphical GUI builder? From: Chris Angelico To: python-list@python.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 21 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1361441291 news.xs4all.nl 6854 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:50251 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:39409 On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 8:20 PM, PythonAB wrote: > > On 21 feb 2013, at 04:45, Michael Torrie wrote: > >> On 02/20/2013 12:44 AM, Steve Simmons wrote: >>> 2. Qt isn't 'free' (depending on what you are going to be doing with it) >>> - read the licensing rules. >> >> How so? It's LGPL. You can't get much freer than that. Both in terms of >> code and developer freedom, and proprietary freedom. > > well that can be discussed... (BSD, MIT, Apache, CDDL) You can argue about which is the "best" license to use (I don't personally like the GPL and LGPL, and don't use them on my creations), but Steve's description that its free status depends on what you're doing with it implies a fairly major violation of the principles of software freedom, which I would expect *all* the popular open-source licenses to be correct on. ChrisA