Path: csiph.com!x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net!usenet.pasdenom.info!selfless.tophat.at!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed5.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.000 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 1.00; '*S*': 0.00; 'subject:bug': 0.04; '3.2': 0.05; 'bug.': 0.07; 'end,': 0.07; 'slice': 0.07; 'terry': 0.07; "'this": 0.09; 'integers': 0.09; 'none)': 0.09; 'prefix': 0.09; 'prefix,': 0.09; 'prefixes': 0.09; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229.12': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; 'received:lo.gmane.org': 0.09; 'start[,': 0.09; 'subject:()': 0.09; 'tuple': 0.09; 'pm,': 0.10; 'this:': 0.10; 'wrote:': 0.14; 'end]])': 0.16; 'furman': 0.16; 'reedy': 0.16; 'subject:() ': 0.16; 'traceback': 0.16; '(most': 0.16; 'subject:skip:s 10': 0.19; 'jan': 0.20; 'starts': 0.20; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.21; 'indices': 0.23; 'last):': 0.23; 'optional': 0.23; 'index': 0.25; 'string': 0.26; 'says': 0.27; 'tried': 0.27; 'position.': 0.29; 'start,': 0.29; 'false.': 0.30; 'none,': 0.30; 'typeerror:': 0.30; 'types.': 0.30; 'clearly': 0.32; 'header:X-Complaints-To:1': 0.32; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.33; 'error': 0.33; "i've": 0.33; 'rather': 0.34; 'file': 0.34; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.35; '"",': 0.35; 'test': 0.35; 'none': 0.37; 'beginning': 0.37; 'comparing': 0.37; 'pretty': 0.37; 'received:org': 0.38; 'docs': 0.38; 'subject:: ': 0.38; 'skip:s 20': 0.39; 'header:Mime-Version:1': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'stop': 0.62 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: python-list@python.org From: Terry Reedy Subject: Re: bug in str.startswith() and str.endswith() Date: Thu, 26 May 2011 23:00:32 -0400 References: <4DDEE1C8.6010107@stoneleaf.us> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: rain.gmane.org User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.17) Gecko/20110414 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.10 In-Reply-To: <4DDEE1C8.6010107@stoneleaf.us> X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 27 NNTP-Posting-Host: 82.94.164.166 X-Trace: 1306465246 news.xs4all.nl 49044 [::ffff:82.94.164.166]:45714 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net comp.lang.python:6363 On 5/26/2011 7:27 PM, Ethan Furman wrote: > I've tried this in 2.5 - 3.2: > > --> 'this is a test'.startswith('this') > True > --> 'this is a test'.startswith('this', None, None) > Traceback (most recent call last): > File "", line 1, in > TypeError: slice indices must be integers or None or have an __index__ > method > > The 3.2 docs say this: > > str.startswith(prefix[, start[, end]]) > Return True if string starts with the prefix, otherwise return False. > prefix can also be a tuple of prefixes to look for. With optional start, > test string beginning at that position. With optional end, stop > comparing string at that position To me, that says pretty clearly that start and end have to be 'positions', ie, ints or other index types. So I would say that the error message is a bug. I see so reason why one would want to use None rather that 0 for start or None rather than nothing for end. -- Terry Jan Reedy