Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!weretis.net!feeder4.news.weretis.net!rt.uk.eu.org!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed1.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.052 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.90; '*S*': 0.00; 'stops': 0.07; '90s,': 0.16; 'assigns': 0.16; 'defaulting': 0.16; 'from:addr:rosuav': 0.16; 'from:name:chris angelico': 0.16; 'measured': 0.16; 'roy': 0.16; 'set,': 0.16; 'tab': 0.16; 'language': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'things.': 0.19; 'programming': 0.22; 'processor': 0.24; 'specify': 0.24; 'defined': 0.27; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'chris': 0.29; 'am,': 0.29; 'character': 0.29; 'heading': 0.30; 'message-id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.30; 'that.': 0.31; 'changed.': 0.31; 'yes.': 0.31; 'subject:all': 0.32; 'sense': 0.34; 'something': 0.35; 'but': 0.35; 'received:google.com': 0.35; "didn't": 0.36; 'two': 0.37; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.38; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'how': 0.40; 'hardware': 0.61; 'till': 0.61; 'back': 0.62; 'different': 0.65; 'nobody': 0.68; 'smith': 0.68; 'article': 0.77; 'subject:you': 0.87; '*for': 0.91; '2013': 0.98 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=SQ44HlaB4kubsa65tXqBds6BIOnrAMHade3f4A13ciI=; b=zMefrSNweAQN0Kyw7VqC03H8oStP7J80jfXqGQVUTnpAUcMjpN+a7tw0t29EABGET3 mSt6NYqVCo8WBSBshswvEoPhuZMk6vZn11L9eUgttP2yA2hhn4eezE++EcGi/p4CWxVa VT3nHRWRf7iSeW7sw4RkDY9qUY/cj1rhhBmwWhIK4EUAR9GzHKYZTpLEJwcM6HMwyk/y 3DUovFvTD6aKAwdIXVQoaBnFS4GebPAaPeleFLt8cewbyywKa4jZa9bHqYTZ7+9KcwpH DOEq4jxElQscTTPpwb28lpvv6SPyTFrFw2DAYZSY7BXjQm/oQnEl5+7AmmARVmXWeqQR vN0w== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.220.231.199 with SMTP id jr7mr11690843vcb.70.1365283799904; Sat, 06 Apr 2013 14:29:59 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <64d4fb7c-6a75-4b5f-b5c8-06a4b2b5d0cb@googlegroups.com> <906d8c05-99dc-4209-854c-7988ca7c78e3@googlegroups.com> <95b2bc1c-57a2-48c9-85ea-cf1004c9e26c@googlegroups.com> Date: Sun, 7 Apr 2013 07:29:59 +1000 Subject: Re: I hate you all From: Chris Angelico To: python-list@python.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 25 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1365283803 news.xs4all.nl 6959 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:43123 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:42951 On Sun, Apr 7, 2013 at 2:01 AM, Roy Smith wrote: > In article , > Chris Angelico wrote: > >> On Sun, Apr 7, 2013 at 12:52 AM, Nobody wrote: >> > Historically, software and hardware which assigns a meaning to a tab >> > character has come in two flavours: >> > >> > 1. Tab stops are every 8 columns; this cannot be changed. >> > 2. Tab stops are configurable, defaulting to every 8 columns. >> >> 3. Tab stops are measured in something other than characters. >> >> With variable-width fonts, it's illogical to set tab stops in >> characters. DeScribe Word Processor defined them in centimeters, way >> back in the early... well, I didn't meet it till the 90s, but I don't >> know how long it had been around before that. > > What makes sense for a word processor and what makes sense for a > programming language are two very different things. Yes. I was just completing the set, since the heading didn't specify *for programming languages*. ChrisA