Path: csiph.com!newsfeed.hal-mli.net!feeder3.hal-mli.net!newsfeed.hal-mli.net!feeder1.hal-mli.net!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed3.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.102 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.80; '*S*': 0.01; 'column': 0.07; "subject:' ": 0.07; 'table.': 0.07; 'fix.': 0.09; 'logic': 0.09; 'record.': 0.09; 'cc:addr:python-list': 0.11; '1:09': 0.16; 'nick': 0.16; 'subject:Adding': 0.16; 'subject:download': 0.16; 'component': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'thu,': 0.19; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.22; 'earlier': 0.24; 'cc:2**0': 0.24; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'chris': 0.29; 'am,': 0.29; 'skills.': 0.29; 'database,': 0.30; 'message-id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.30; 'code': 0.31; 'piece': 0.31; 'relational': 0.31; 'up.': 0.33; 'fri,': 0.33; 'table': 0.34; 'problem': 0.35; 'subject: (': 0.35; "can't": 0.35; 'but': 0.35; 'received:google.com': 0.35; 'there': 0.35; 'too': 0.37; 'being': 0.38; 'nov': 0.38; 'help,': 0.39; 'is.': 0.60; 'most': 0.60; 'new': 0.61; 'first': 0.61; 'information': 0.63; 'to:addr:gmail.com': 0.65; 'side': 0.67; 'determine': 0.67; 'design.': 0.68; '8bit%:100': 0.72; 'qualified': 0.72; 'foreign': 0.74; 'article': 0.77; 'lack': 0.78; 'cult': 0.84; 'euros,': 0.84; 'idiot': 0.84; 'idiots': 0.84; 'joel': 0.91; '2013': 0.98 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=g6c5yRKkCrF2EKkD/jwh4BM79FYYxeadnduqPgqAq6k=; b=kJLs9jNY4jpgs1MVJFSJf1JTTiczlfsCfgPNkfF5GHnQXVtfkebFx92DYdiSD4nf+m uLNkgxHgS5iBE7cQqeA828Tm3tLU+ysXdELTvyD51gs0HyLnR+nBDX3mrpPf3FUlNOa8 hrSoyPU0DKGrmd5lxksxi8x7y18PkKZu6Ca0NnzD2HmJfzOhy8k8bHXP8rGQ3OiGV+ng /l6Qtl+xCqH8d0q+2tpouLizUypMnTi6bihWq6pUqoPsG/tTDMb6MvGx5h26ZLSQQLdl AWbb1V8AwvkArMzxSVgvIk0BQkONa3+L4CgOgHEFqvEpK+8n9wlosQ2rEVq85vfJw2zX nHCw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.52.52.137 with SMTP id t9mr5947308vdo.22.1383837075749; Thu, 07 Nov 2013 07:11:15 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 7 Nov 2013 10:11:15 -0500 Subject: Re: Adding 'download' column to existing 'visitors' table (as requested) From: Joel Goldstick To: Chris Angelico Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: "python-list@python.org" X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 43 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1383837085 news.xs4all.nl 16001 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:34074 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:58664 On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 9:37 AM, Chris Angelico wrote: > On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 1:09 AM, =CE=9D=CE=AF=CE=BA=CE=BF=CF=82 =CE=91=CE= =BB=CE=B5=CE=BE=CF=8C=CF=80=CE=BF=CF=85=CE=BB=CE=BF=CF=82 wrote: >> Why create a whole new 'downloads' table and associate it with the with = a >> foreign key with the 'visitors' table you idiot when you can just have a= n >> extra column at the end of the current 'visitor's table? >> >> Both 'downloader' and 'downlaod' is associated by being in the same reco= rd. >> >> By your logic every time we want to store an extra piece of information = we >> have to create an extra database table. >> >> Too much hussle for no good reason.... First of all Nikos, you are not qualified to determine if there is reason to design a database in any particular way, since you don't understand what a relational database is. Secondly, in earlier threads I provided you with a link to a wikipedia article about first normal form and why it is a necessary component of data base design. If you don't want to use a database, good for you, but if you can't get your website to work and you ask for help, then respond that the help is 'too much hussle', you are disrespectful. You don't bother me because you are lazy, and arogant, and whiny. Or that you lack skills. You are a cargo cult programmer. I know you won't look that up. You bother me because you are disrespectful. The most disrespectful person I have ever encountered on line. On a side note to whoever hacks into Nick the idiots website -- why not just take it down. Then he won't have any need to spend his 20 euros, and there will be no code to fix. Problem solved! --=20 Joel Goldstick http://joelgoldstick.com