Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!aioe.org!news.stack.nl!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed4.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.020 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.96; '*S*': 0.00; 'cpython': 0.05; 'subject:Python': 0.06; 'string': 0.09; 'sys,': 0.09; 'python': 0.11; 'from:addr:rosuav': 0.16; 'from:name:chris angelico': 0.16; 'mean,': 0.16; 'opened.': 0.16; 'url:gmane': 0.16; 'sat,': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.18; 'discussion': 0.18; "aren't": 0.24; 'subject:/': 0.26; 'values': 0.27; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.27; 'function': 0.29; 'chris': 0.29; 'url:bugs': 0.29; 'message- id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.30; 'fine,': 0.31; '(including': 0.33; 'url:python': 0.33; "can't": 0.35; 'agree': 0.35; 'received:209.85': 0.35; 'received:209.85.220': 0.35; 'but': 0.35; 'received:google.com': 0.35; 'there': 0.35; 'really': 0.36; 'much.': 0.36; 'url:org': 0.36; 'detail': 0.37; 'received:209': 0.37; 'expected': 0.38; '8bit%:86': 0.38; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.38; 'pm,': 0.38; 'weight': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'future': 0.60; 'different': 0.65; 'subject:long': 0.84; 'versions)': 0.84; 'url:comments': 0.91; '2013': 0.98 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=JLl8M5vPAcEIdvnaCPZd9v8z6viafh4ue9y5+Q3Wyak=; b=H7H9OZULN8bs8HZoOVjqb/XbAI++06yMNxKdGvn5SHA+gezfvca3zDCZOCplo5U9dw dnMcVe/WuBl6grJsMgAfCOiO0vq/EG5HNjLEcQasqF1aFjV40bSxAErfzNL8hwO4qaUW XBj3m+7IZTFdLNiS8ejmQlKq+RGZw1uh5oosGi45D+GHLD2AGF+94hCaZ8DEfZajP8Xd Xnz0caOMLrNgcqZ7FLGn549EujouSZq/b/svJ7CEHVGq2H5HP+NedKS37cSrw8iXPMwP AUqlgKFLAeITgA+2uCB8IgkmSjxP5jL4zntQZj7qX+Pye1PGtv4KzGO/CZk844/Co/ZT eshw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.220.223.80 with SMTP id ij16mr11906133vcb.28.1365283499194; Sat, 06 Apr 2013 14:24:59 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <87dff083-14d8-4163-89f3-d78a9be6c802@c15g2000vbl.googlegroups.com> <3qadncD4-6fcPsbMnZ2dnUVZ_rqdnZ2d@westnet.com.au> <515bbedb$0$29891$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <515be00e$0$29891$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> <515c45ad$0$29966$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> Date: Sun, 7 Apr 2013 07:24:59 +1000 Subject: Re: Performance of int/long in Python 3 From: Chris Angelico To: python-list@python.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 19 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1365283507 news.xs4all.nl 6989 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:39189 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:42950 On Sat, Apr 6, 2013 at 8:09 PM, Serhiy Storchaka wrot= e: > 04.04.13 00:57, Chris Angelico =D0=BD=D0=B0=D0=BF=D0=B8=D1=81=D0=B0=D0=B2= (=D0=BB=D0=B0): >> http://bugs.python.org/issue17629 opened. > > > See also the discussion at > http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.python.ideas/15640 . I agree with > rejection. This is an implementation detail and different Python > implementations (including future CPython versions) can have different > internal string implementations. I really don't see why this means that there can't be a function in sys, or something. I mean, other Pythons aren't expected to return the exact same values from sys.getsizeof, are they? But clearly the weight of opinion is against me, so fine, I don't care that much. ChrisA