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On 20 Feb 2013 04:15:01 GMT
Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp.lang.python@pearwood.info> wrote:

> On Tue, 19 Feb 2013 21:45:53 -0500, Roy Smith wrote:
> 
> > A quote from Computer World (http://tinyurl.com/bxqjed8):
> > 
> > "... the Python Software Foundation (PSF) - a non-profit supporting
> > the venerable Python programming language ..."
> > 
> > Venerable?  Come on.  Fortran is venerable.  Cobol is venerable.
> > Old farts use things that are venerable.  I don't want to be an old
> > fart (not that I have much say in the matter).
> 
> Venerable does not mean "old". It means worthy of veneration. Cobol
> is not venerable. Cobol is *just old*.'
> 
> 
> Definition of VENERABLE:
> 1: deserving to be venerated —used as a title for an Anglican
> archdeacon or for a Roman Catholic who has been accorded the lowest
> of three degrees of recognition for sanctity
> 2: made sacred especially by religious or historical association
> 3a : calling forth respect through age, character, and attainments <a 
> venerable jazz musician>; broadly : conveying an impression of aged 
> goodness and benevolence <encouraged by the venerable doctor's head-
> nodding>
> b: impressive by reason of age <under venerable pines>

So a venerable cult then.
cult:
group/sect bound together by veneration of some thing, person, ideal, etc. 

Whether a sect or group remains to be worked out. Probably not a tuple.