Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!weretis.net!feeder1.news.weretis.net!feeder.erje.net!newsfeed.freenet.ag!news2.euro.net!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.020 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.96; '*S*': 0.00; 'contributor': 0.07; 'comment,': 0.09; 'construed': 0.09; 'robust': 0.09; 'subject:language': 0.09; 'cc:addr:python-list': 0.10; 'subject:python': 0.11; ':-)': 0.13; 'language': 0.14; 'sat,': 0.15; '[and': 0.16; 'hackers': 0.16; 'merely': 0.16; 'oct': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.17; 'else,': 0.17; 'obviously': 0.18; 'saying': 0.18; 'mostly': 0.20; 'putting': 0.20; 'bit': 0.21; 'received:209.85.216.46': 0.21; 'cc:2**0': 0.23; 'posts': 0.23; "i've": 0.23; 'cc:no real name:2**0': 0.24; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.25; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.25; 'subscriber': 0.27; 'rest': 0.28; 'subject:list': 0.28; 'fine': 0.28; 'noticed': 0.28; 'us!': 0.29; 'url:mailman': 0.29; 'probably': 0.29; "i'm": 0.29; 'that.': 0.30; 'helpful': 0.30; 'url:python': 0.32; 'could': 0.32; 'url:listinfo': 0.32; 'club': 0.33; 'zero': 0.33; 'received:google.com': 0.34; 'list': 0.35; 'community': 0.35; 'continue': 0.35; 'received:209.85': 0.35; 'really': 0.36; 'but': 0.36; 'message-id:@gmail.com': 0.36; 'url:org': 0.36; 'anything': 0.36; 'charset:us-ascii': 0.36; 'drop': 0.37; 'quite': 0.37; 'received:209': 0.37; 'received:209.85.216': 0.37; 'subject:: ': 0.38; 'green': 0.38; 'some': 0.38; 'login': 0.38; 'nothing': 0.38; 'sure': 0.38; 'subject:-': 0.40; 'header:Received:5': 0.40; 'url:mail': 0.40; 'header:Message-Id:1': 0.62; 'received:96': 0.62; 'behavior': 0.64; 'here': 0.65; 'passive': 0.65; 'targeted': 0.66; 'facebook.': 0.71; 'increase': 0.72; 'disagreement': 0.84; 'enjoyable': 0.84; 'etienne': 0.84; 'idiots': 0.84; 'tone': 0.84; 'lately,': 0.91; 'mean.': 0.91 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=MVIg+/oqQLJLQcdn7tjjNnk/EQ//v3oYrYe5c/bGjEw=; b=mRmd3/8/j+y9PG+kN9ip7JgTJsF5vaqVk/ygOSTpPaC3+nt0kk4w5vYLCaFe3eoxQF 2Mj21Niu/iEdvdTv/292WrKodDjgu7FBUsQa7RBBoOxv2nhYeSC950DAPRta8lqy5cNq 5bsg2N4x8fndUI811jokIGXWI8JB1Ln0SrF60K9qDwLio0scZUwhP3igdqwN7wl7bJnk BcXuCbxIk1R9BVRPJuSsC4s7kS1aYw/MSqaG72083Fl2yZBS6rhVR6uxwJkMc5iLTauJ VCMeIk8eStkSAfPU47BSwiwjDI6Egb18fZjaJNd9nyE9/c3lTcDbDwmaHeVlKAJ2thzG nLaQ== Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2012 11:46:46 -0400 From: Etienne Robillard To: Zero Piraeus Subject: Re: Aggressive language on python-list In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.2.0 (GTK+ 2.24.10; i686-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: python-list@python.org X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 39 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1350143189 news.xs4all.nl 6959 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:38953 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:31200 On Sat, 13 Oct 2012 11:21:28 -0400 Zero Piraeus wrote: > : > > Not sure exactly how to put this ... > > I'm a mostly passive subscriber to this list - my posts here over the > years could probably be counted without having to take my socks off - > so perhaps I have no right to comment, but I've noticed a marked > increase in aggressive language here lately, so I'm putting my head > above the parapet to say that I don't appreciate it. > > Robust disagreement is one thing [and can be quite enjoyable for those > of us merely spectating], but there's really no need to go around > calling people idiots at the drop of a hat. Quite apart from anything > else, when the contributor you're calling names is as helpful and > knowledgeable a member of the community as some of those targeted have > been, it makes you look a bit daft. > > And, yes, I know bringing it up could be construed as stoking the > flames ... but, well, "silence = acquiescence" and all that. > > -[]z. > -- > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list OT. you obviously has no clue what agressive behavior mean. :-) So please continue with the passive tone saying nothing relevant and login to facebook. -- Etienne Robillard Green Tea Hackers Club Fine Software Carpentry For The Rest Of Us! http://gthc.org/ erob@gthcfoundation.org