Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!weretis.net!feeder4.news.weretis.net!ecngs!feeder2.ecngs.de!newsfeed.freenet.ag!news2.euro.net!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.018 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.96; '*S*': 0.00; 'received:209.85.223': 0.03; 'contributor': 0.07; 'comment,': 0.09; 'construed': 0.09; 'robust': 0.09; 'subject:language': 0.09; 'subject:python': 0.11; 'language': 0.14; '[and': 0.16; 'merely': 0.16; 'else,': 0.17; 'mostly': 0.20; 'putting': 0.20; 'bit': 0.21; 'posts': 0.23; "i've": 0.23; 'subscriber': 0.27; 'message-id:@mail.gmail.com': 0.27; 'subject:list': 0.28; 'noticed': 0.28; 'probably': 0.29; "i'm": 0.29; 'that.': 0.30; 'helpful': 0.30; 'could': 0.32; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.33; 'received:google.com': 0.34; 'list': 0.35; 'community': 0.35; 'received:209.85': 0.35; 'really': 0.36; 'but': 0.36; 'anything': 0.36; 'drop': 0.37; 'quite': 0.37; 'received:209': 0.37; 'some': 0.38; 'sure': 0.38; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'subject:-': 0.40; 'header:Received:5': 0.40; 'here': 0.65; 'passive': 0.65; 'targeted': 0.66; 'increase': 0.72; 'disagreement': 0.84; 'enjoyable': 0.84; 'idiots': 0.84; 'lately,': 0.91 X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:x-originating-ip:from:date:x-google-sender-auth :message-id:subject:to:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=5sePemD0dAGLlUOIrzrz81wBr95pQR5lLRz220xucP4=; b=j2UDCYFz5Kw7xNro92qEQBILjDaunLW79tC8o2x0aI0gB1G/3RqoUsMhFTCo+L+MDE MhGSV2l5ibgl8/YqwxL5Y5fr1mvHhN2lr/y8ShHKWU5jDAfBRdx6PFygOfVl3lctmeJd zgUXgTlKyqm4JmRdHEPjuYDQCuHDI52H3kycFMvjiQWzp99wq0ROq+0K4183xGCWWUhV ejpf4T5C9A3X755YVBP7AC7lCktDbWJDITLUdg0s5QIHqgfUlpsLKeaM4RcpS59W97+f VxwvWNuszaslGEG16YhESj3e+5dww2w89Uz4uqT6VZvxCKl0amzH/aROEjYT9YyqbUqf UCYQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: z@etiol.net X-Originating-IP: [190.104.31.21] From: Zero Piraeus Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2012 11:21:28 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: wber-3MeSKENbLjXEf-g9FLvtCc Subject: Aggressive language on python-list To: python-list@python.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQmLUzXh6nYAhY1JAmh5i3OxShCvLUu9Hxa+e9nQvK4uA9hI5DgIdPc3RyOjHDslf+f8lxqy X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 21 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1350141717 news.xs4all.nl 6905 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:33309 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:31199 : Not sure exactly how to put this ... I'm a mostly passive subscriber to this list - my posts here over the years could probably be counted without having to take my socks off - so perhaps I have no right to comment, but I've noticed a marked increase in aggressive language here lately, so I'm putting my head above the parapet to say that I don't appreciate it. Robust disagreement is one thing [and can be quite enjoyable for those of us merely spectating], but there's really no need to go around calling people idiots at the drop of a hat. Quite apart from anything else, when the contributor you're calling names is as helpful and knowledgeable a member of the community as some of those targeted have been, it makes you look a bit daft. And, yes, I know bringing it up could be construed as stoking the flames ... but, well, "silence = acquiescence" and all that. -[]z.