Path: csiph.com!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!not-for-mail From: Christopher Reimer Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Subject: Re: How much sanity checking is required for function inputs? Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2016 19:03:03 -0700 Lines: 26 Message-ID: References: <5713E52D.3060407@icloud.com> <1461131475.4042173.584042297.03DAB00E@webmail.messagingengine.com> <57171D23.40709@stoneleaf.us> <1461133057.4046578.584060569.2DD34821@webmail.messagingengine.com> <57185E88.30201@yahoo.com> <57197FC3.4030701@icloud.com> <57198827.1020608@stoneleaf.us> <5719964E.2050400@icloud.com> <571C2957.7060508@icloud.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de DGnikrRHPb+N3umjNZvEMAJ0BdUwtjpCuJK76jfkpz3A== Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.150 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.70; '*S*': 0.00; 'sanity': 0.07; 'subject:How': 0.09; 'backwards': 0.09; 'instantiated': 0.09; 'prevents': 0.09; 'stored': 0.10; 'received:io': 0.16; 'received:psf.io': 0.16; 'subject:required': 0.16; 'worst': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.16; 'board.': 0.18; 'load': 0.20; 'java': 0.22; '(or': 0.23; "haven't": 0.24; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.26; '(which': 0.26; 'chris': 0.26; 'received:17': 0.27; 'then.': 0.27; 'pickle': 0.29; 'url:wikipedia': 0.29; "i'm": 0.30; 'board': 0.30; 'classes': 0.30; 'url:wiki': 0.30; 'code': 0.30; 'another': 0.32; 'received:10.0.0': 0.32; 'impression': 0.33; 'rule': 0.33; "i'll": 0.33; 'case,': 0.34; 'received:10.0': 0.34; 'add': 0.34; 'confirmed': 0.35; 'something': 0.35; 'but': 0.36; 'url:org': 0.36; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.36; 'subject:?': 0.36; 'pm,': 0.36; 'subject:: ': 0.37; 'received:10': 0.37; 'being': 0.37; 'thought': 0.37; 'starting': 0.37; 'thank': 0.38; 'means': 0.39; 'url:en': 0.39; 'does': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.40; 'where': 0.40; 'still': 0.40; 'header:MIME-version:1': 0.60; 'ever': 0.60; 'save': 0.60; 'your': 0.60; 'suitable': 0.61; 'side': 0.62; 'charset:windows-1252': 0.62; 'positions': 0.64; 'promotion': 0.65; 'state,': 0.66; 'saving': 0.70; 'state.': 0.72; 'won': 0.76; 'cheating': 0.84; 'habits.': 0.84; 'header:In-reply-to:1': 0.84; 'move.': 0.84; 'outrageously': 0.84; 'ethan': 0.91; 'played': 0.91; 'promotion,': 0.91; 'subject:much': 0.91 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:,, definitions=2016-04-24_02:,, signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 clxscore=1015 suspectscore=1 malwarescore=0 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.0.1-1510270003 definitions=main-1604240032 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.7.2 In-reply-to: DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=icloud.com; s=4d515a; t=1461463381; bh=sPwpL4kTvQK+SQbpd9lYBdd3gRTFnnj/vrGfxYgKCX8=; h=Subject:To:From:Message-id:Date:MIME-version:Content-type; b=JxqCfMBubrnLmAF0/U1nwNirUbOeSMTl67BAxEERBQ6q9FvszyfugnMGXiGn3UPKa H/toxomZ14E21/BgH9jK+CnveGgQjJ2Kx1cZ2U9XmVsoDUS13cSAtydmQot2AFKueU Ky3p7JFRiu52ea/8D0U/JCPzyBNi9pdacwMi1UI+hpeB9M/tYr/pLIafmbGsm3/ANu Suhlqwg/O9ZojR0QWiYOnwu58hJwvBP22yCccfhOynAPqxDNvXoOoWHiWjmrm4916i T+VkUkyx4vWWxCrt9/sCmMRWRkSSxhAYH+GkhRhU+muOgTr4gPhnxAc0Fp1P6PxGlT z8VGce3Gdzclg== X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-Mailman-Original-Message-ID: <571C2957.7060508@icloud.com> X-Mailman-Original-References: <5713E52D.3060407@icloud.com> <1461131475.4042173.584042297.03DAB00E@webmail.messagingengine.com> <57171D23.40709@stoneleaf.us> <1461133057.4046578.584060569.2DD34821@webmail.messagingengine.com> <57185E88.30201@yahoo.com> <57197FC3.4030701@icloud.com> <57198827.1020608@stoneleaf.us> <5719964E.2050400@icloud.com> Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:107528 On 4/23/2016 2:33 PM, Matt Wheeler wrote: > This is still backwards to me. It prevents your classes from being > suitable for restoring a stored game state, not just custom starting > positions (which I think is what Ethan means by custom setups). I haven't thought that far about saving the game state. I'm under the impression that pickle (or something else) would save and load the instantiated object of each piece. If that's not the case, I'll change the code then. The sanity check does have an exemption for pawn promotion, where a pawn reaching the other side of the board can be promoted to another piece (typically a queen). I played Sargon II chess on the Commodore 64 for five years as a teenager. The worst game I ever won was when the computer had nine queens on the board. I thought the computer was cheating outrageously but a chess rule book confirmed that promotion was a legit move. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Promotion_(chess) If I need to add an exemption to custom plays, I'll add it then. Right now I'm cleaning up the existing code from all the bad Java habits. Thank you, Chris R.