Path: csiph.com!usenet.pasdenom.info!gegeweb.org!de-l.enfer-du-nord.net!feeder1.enfer-du-nord.net!feeds.phibee-telecom.net!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed2.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.010 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.98; '*S*': 0.00; 'python,': 0.02; '(using': 0.07; 'exit': 0.07; 'rename': 0.07; 'grid': 0.09; 'icon': 0.09; 'tab': 0.09; 'windows,': 0.09; 'complicated,': 0.16; 'dialog.': 0.16; 'files)': 0.16; 'from:addr:r.koebler': 0.16; 'from:name:roland koebler': 0.16; 'qtdesigner': 0.16; 'received:78.47': 0.16; 'subject:GUI': 0.16; '(in': 0.18; 'windows': 0.19; 'bit': 0.21; '2.x': 0.22; '3.x': 0.22; 'seems': 0.23; 'linux': 0.24; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.25; '(which': 0.26; '(e.g.': 0.27; 'installing': 0.27; "doesn't": 0.28; 'fixed': 0.28; 'running.': 0.29; 'worked': 0.30; 'button': 0.30; 'file': 0.32; 'etc.)': 0.32; 'text,': 0.33; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.33; 'hi,': 0.33; 'agree': 0.34; 'wrong': 0.34; 'doing': 0.35; 'subject:?': 0.35; 'something': 0.35; 'there': 0.35; 'really': 0.36; 'but': 0.36; 'url:org': 0.36; 'should': 0.36; 'charset:us-ascii': 0.36; '(for': 0.37; 'quite': 0.37; 'subject:: ': 0.38; 'things': 0.38; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'little': 0.39; 'where': 0.40; 'think': 0.40; 'easy': 0.60; 'content-disposition:inline': 0.60; 'most': 0.61; 'situation': 0.62; 'provide': 0.62; 'more': 0.63; 'subject:there': 0.65; 'soon.': 0.73; 'darn': 0.84; 'is)': 0.84; 'layout.': 0.84; 'open,': 0.84; 'choice.': 0.93; 'notebook': 0.96 Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2013 11:05:29 +0100 From: Roland Koebler To: python-list@python.org Subject: Re: Is there a graphical GUI builder? References: <20130220025316.GA22457@localhost> <512447CB.4030608@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <512447CB.4030608@gmail.com> X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 27 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1361354732 news.xs4all.nl 6869 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:34284 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:39333 Hi, > I agree that on Linux GTK is pretty darn slick. I use it for all my > little GUIs. But on Windows, GTK, particularly under python, isn't > quite as easy to get running. installing GTK+ 2.x should be easy, since there are all-in-one-installers for windows on http://www.gtk.org (for GTK+) and http://www.pygtk.org (for Python+GTK+). Installing GTK+ 3.x on windows is currently a bit more complicated, but this situation should improve soon. > I think if the OP is on windows (which it seems like he is) then Qt with > PySide (using either QML or QtDesigner to manipulate ui files) is an > excellent choice. I never was happy with QtDesigner -- I always struggled *a lot* (in contrast to Glade, where most things worked like a charm). I not even achieved to rename the tab of a notebook (?!) or to create a button with an icon above the text, or a grid layout without a fixed layout. It even seems that the QtDesigner doesn't even provide standard- icons (e.g. for open, close, exit etc.) or a file dialog. Am I doing something fundamentally wrong in QtDesigner, or is QtDesigner really that bad? regards Roland