Path: csiph.com!x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net!usenet.pasdenom.info!aioe.org!feeder.news-service.com!news2.euro.net!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.000 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 1.00; '*S*': 0.00; 'subject:spam': 0.04; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229.12': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; 'received:lo.gmane.org': 0.09; 'essentially': 0.10; '"normal"': 0.16; '21:13:09': 0.16; 'bieber': 0.16; 'declaimed': 0.16; 'email addr:ix.netcom.com': 0.16; 'email name:wlfraed': 0.16; 'from:addr:ix.netcom.com': 0.16; 'from:addr:wlfraed': 0.16; 'from:name:dennis lee bieber': 0.16; 'gmane': 0.16; 'guessing': 0.16; 'is).': 0.16; 'leaks': 0.16; 'nntp': 0.16; 'received:66.245': 0.16; 'received:dsl.mindspring.com': 0.16; 'received:mindspring.com': 0.16; 'received:wlfraed': 0.16; 'url:netcom': 0.16; 'url:wlfraed': 0.16; 'wulfraed': 0.16; 'seems': 0.20; "haven't": 0.20; '(but': 0.21; 'url:home': 0.21; '(or': 0.23; 'aug': 0.24; 'subject:List': 0.25; "i'm": 0.27; 'separate': 0.28; 'lee': 0.28; 'tend': 0.28; 'thu,': 0.28; 'server': 0.29; 'sends': 0.29; 'list': 0.32; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.33; 'identical': 0.34; 'header:X -Complaints-To:1': 0.35; 'list.': 0.35; 'charset:us-ascii': 0.36; 'club': 0.37; 'received:org': 0.38; 'allows': 0.38; 'subject:: ': 0.39; 'header:Mime-Version:1': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'year.': 0.40; 'subject': 0.61; 'become': 0.71; 'dennis': 0.77; 'username': 0.77; 'euros': 0.84; 'dozen': 0.91 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: python-list@python.org From: Dennis Lee Bieber Subject: Re: List spam Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2011 21:33:50 -0700 Organization: > Bestiaria Support Staff < References: <0A9E373A-AA62-4DD4-83B9-B4424037BF6B@semanchuk.com> <87d3g26a2r.fsf@dpt-info.u-strasbg.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: user-11fa415.dsl.mindspring.com X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 3.3/32.846 X-No-Archive: YES X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 24 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1313728446 news.xs4all.nl 23845 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:36861 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net comp.lang.python:11831 On Thu, 18 Aug 2011 21:13:09 +0300, Anssi Saari declaimed the following in gmane.comp.python.general: > You know, Gmane allows access also via NNTP, including this list. > Server news.gmane.org, group name gmane.comp.python.general. > > Haven't used it since I get this list via "normal" NNTP as > comp.lang.python. My NNTP access is via a computer club for 8 euros > per year. Whereas I had to go to Gmane as the NNTP server "provided" by Earthlink collected all the spam from GoogleGroups; Gmane only leaks a few times (but the leaks tend to become massive looking as the break-through username sends a dozen essentially identical messages with slight subject changes). I say "provided" as it seems the former separate news.west.earthlink.net and news.east.earthlink.net both now route to a giganews (or whatever that system is). I'm guessing Earthlink decided to subcontract the NNTP service out. -- Wulfraed Dennis Lee Bieber AF6VN wlfraed@ix.netcom.com HTTP://wlfraed.home.netcom.com/