Path: csiph.com!x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net!usenet.pasdenom.info!aioe.org!feeder.news-service.com!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed6.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.001 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 1.00; '*S*': 0.00; 'subject:spam': 0.04; 'instance,': 0.05; 'complaining': 0.07; 'received:verizon.net': 0.07; 'terry': 0.07; '*is*': 0.09; 'http,': 0.09; 'received:80.91': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229': 0.09; 'received:80.91.229.12': 0.09; 'received:gmane.org': 0.09; 'received:list': 0.09; 'received:lo.gmane.org': 0.09; 'bits,': 0.16; 'reedy': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.16; 'issue.': 0.19; 'jan': 0.19; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.22; 'pm,': 0.24; 'changed': 0.24; 'subject:List': 0.25; 'separate': 0.28; 'problem': 0.28; 'specifically': 0.29; 'about.': 0.32; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.33; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.34; 'header:X-Complaints-To:1': 0.35; 'several': 0.37; 'but': 0.37; 'received:org': 0.38; 'steven': 0.38; 'move': 0.38; 'subject:: ': 0.39; 'getting': 0.39; 'header :Mime-Version:1': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.39; 'might': 0.40; 'believe': 0.65; 'supply': 0.69; 'disappear': 0.84; 'movies': 0.96; 'bandwidth': 0.97 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: python-list@python.org From: Terry Reedy Subject: Re: List spam Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2011 00:03:52 -0400 References: <8762lu64he.fsf@dpt-info.u-strasbg.fr> <4e4dc604$0$29982$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: pool-74-109-121-73.phlapa.fios.verizon.net User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:6.0) Gecko/20110812 Thunderbird/6.0 In-Reply-To: <4e4dc604$0$29982$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.com> X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 15 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1313726670 news.xs4all.nl 23893 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:49078 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net comp.lang.python:11830 On 8/18/2011 10:10 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote: > Now, an ISP might not have the bandwidth to supply all the needs of their > customers, that's a separate issue. But complaining that the problem is > specifically because they use bittorrent, as if it would disappear if they > changed to HTTP, is bogus. Or changed to getting their movies via NetFlix, for instance, as Comcast *is* complaining about. I believe their real complaint is that they are only paid to move bits, and not for originating them, even though they already get several times as much per month as NetFlix. -- Terry Jan Reedy