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Date: Tue, 24 May 2011 23:00:20 -0700 Organization: > Bestiaria Support Staff < References: <12225671E9654FECB49613D915FAEC19@teddy><21A740B7AC6644248476DFADDF726C73@octavian><629DAC3611EA49B0A36BCF70151CDE2F@octavian><57C0AB91B42743E89456ACCC8751CF78@octavian><2C6966D5AB6541E3BCE920FE7883A05B@octavian> <20110524060535.64cfa0ec.darcy@druid.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: user-11fa4ra.dsl.mindspring.com X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 3.3/32.846 X-No-Archive: YES X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 42 NNTP-Posting-Host: 82.94.164.166 X-Trace: 1306303236 news.xs4all.nl 49042 [::ffff:82.94.164.166]:52465 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net comp.lang.python:6194 On Tue, 24 May 2011 19:10:50 +0300, "Octavian Rasnita" declaimed the following in gmane.comp.python.general: > > The Perl programmers usually don't need to look in the dictionary when they are creating programs. > Perl is harder to learn, but it is easier to use. > I'd rather have a working program after a few days of studying the Python books than after six months of trying to understand PERL... And did -- I had a usable makeshift SMTP outgoing mail program on my Amiga within a week of installing Python (Irmen's port); this at a time when the first downloaded mail program I used assumed it could connect directly to all target destinations -- and would hang up my outgoing mail when a machine was not reachable. The second downloaded program used ISP relay -- but the coder hadn't realized that the initial handshake had to specify all CC and BCC addresses along with TO addresses. At work, I did have to help someone with a PERL program at one time... I could only do that by first prototyping code section in Python, and then looking for the PERL equivalent in the Camel book. > A shorter code can be typed faster, obviously, and there are fewer possibility of appearing errors, but the shortage is not the most important thing. > "fewer possibility..."? Not when half the language is cryptic characters to define how to interpret the variable. > The most important thing is that the chars @, $, or % are the same in all languages, while the If by that you mean they are punctuation... Yes... But in SQL, % is a wildcard... As I recall, $ in column 1 identifies a statement in DCL (and I think in CP/V batch files; my manuals are in storage) -- lines without the $ are considered data that can be read by I/O statements. But in CP/V FORTRAN-IV, $ in column 1 is a comment. -- Wulfraed Dennis Lee Bieber AF6VN wlfraed@ix.netcom.com HTTP://wlfraed.home.netcom.com/