Path: csiph.com!news.swapon.de!newsfeed.fsmpi.rwth-aachen.de!newsfeed.straub-nv.de!feeds.phibee-telecom.net!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed7.news.xs4all.nl!nzpost1.xs4all.net!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.001 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 1.00; '*S*': 0.00; 'pycon': 0.03; 'anyway.': 0.04; 'subject:Python': 0.05; 'guido': 0.05; 'received:134': 0.05; 'reject': 0.05; 'indicated': 0.07; 'keynote': 0.07; 'objects,': 0.07; 'essential.': 0.09; 'indication': 0.09; 'lemburg,': 0.09; 'python': 0.10; 'conditional': 0.16; 'expression.': 0.16; 'it".': 0.16; 'marc-andr\xc3\xa9': 0.16; 'poll': 0.16; 'prefered': 0.16; 'received:ac.be': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.16; 'programmer': 0.18; '>>>': 0.20; 'bit': 0.23; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.24; 'header:User- Agent:1': 0.26; 'van': 0.26; 'switch': 0.27; 'least': 0.27; 'pep': 0.29; 'url:peps': 0.29; 'there.': 0.30; 'e.g.': 0.30; 'received:be': 0.30; 'table': 0.32; 'url:python': 0.33; 'michael': 0.33; 'similar': 0.33; 'add': 0.34; 'could': 0.35; 'url:dev': 0.35; 'but': 0.36; 'there': 0.36; 'url:org': 0.36; 'to:addr :python-list': 0.36; 'pm,': 0.36; 'subject:: ': 0.37; 'being': 0.37; 'say': 0.37; 'support,': 0.37; '2007': 0.38; 'several': 0.38; "didn't": 0.39; 'enough': 0.39; 'to:addr:python.org': 0.40; 'mark': 0.40; 'still': 0.40; 'chance': 0.60; 'here.': 0.62; 'here': 0.66; 'therefore': 0.67; 'idiomatic': 0.84; 'pardon': 0.84; 'schreef': 0.84; 'several)': 0.84; 'colour': 0.91; 'thing,': 0.93 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AlsFAPCi7lWGuA9G/2dsb2JhbABdg3dEASSDJLwEhXkCggMBAQEBAQGFLwEBBCMPAUURCxgCAgUWCwICCQMCAQIBRRMGAgKIFQMSDbUXjw0MSIRBAQsBGwSBIoVRhHuFExeCUoFDBYc3hm2HMYpJgjGBTBWHCzKRWSaCEByBVm+ISQEBAQ Date: Tue, 08 Sep 2015 10:59:01 +0200 From: Antoon Pardon User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Icedove/31.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: python-list@python.org Subject: Re: Python handles globals badly. References: <4602a32c-5109-47dd-95bb-b9723738f07f@googlegroups.com> <55E8E09A.3080309@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20+ Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 35 NNTP-Posting-Host: 2001:888:2000:d::a6 X-Trace: 1441702743 news.xs4all.nl 23865 [2001:888:2000:d::a6]:44413 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.python:96106 Op 04-09-15 om 02:47 schreef Mark Lawrence: > On 04/09/2015 01:06, Michael Torrie wrote: >> On 09/03/2015 01:05 PM, tdev@freenet.de wrote: >> >>> [The same e.g. with switch statement: add it] >> >> Switch is a nice-to-have thing, but definitely not essential. A PEP here >> (probably already has been several) would at least be read anyway. >> However, there are several idiomatic ways of accomplishing the same >> thing that are often good enough and familiar to any Python programmer >> out there. Since functions are first-class objects, often a dispatch >> table is the best way to go here. >> > > https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-3103/ "A Switch/Case Statement" by > Guido van Rossum, "Rejection Notice - A quick poll during my keynote > presentation at PyCon 2007 shows this proposal has no popular support. > I therefore reject it". > > https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0275/ "Switching on Multiple > Values" by Marc-André Lemburg, "Rejection Notice - A similar PEP for > Python 3000, PEP 3103 [2], was already rejected, so this proposal has > no chance of being accepted either." > Were those polls, like the poll he once did for the condtional expression? There the poll indicated no specific proposal had a majority, so for each specific proposal one could say it didn't have popular support, but the majority still prefered to have a conditional expression. But at that time Guido used that poll as an indication there was not enough support. So colour me a bit sceptical when Guido comes with such a poll. -- Antoon Pardon