Path: csiph.com!x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net!usenet.pasdenom.info!aioe.org!feeder.news-service.com!news2.euro.net!newsgate.cistron.nl!newsgate.news.xs4all.nl!post.news.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail Return-Path: X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org X-Spam-Status: OK 0.111 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.78; '*S*': 0.00; 'python.': 0.04; 'perl,': 0.05; 'subject:Python': 0.06; 'python': 0.08; 'investigate': 0.09; 'settled': 0.09; 'similarly,': 0.09; 'wrote:': 0.14; '+0300': 0.16; '425': 0.16; 'opposite': 0.16; 'perl.': 0.16; 'upset': 0.16; 'cc:addr:python-list': 0.17; 'tue,': 0.17; 'language': 0.18; 'perl': 0.19; 'voting': 0.19; 'programming': 0.19; 'header:In- Reply-To:1': 0.21; 'cc:2**0': 0.22; 'cc:no real name:2**0': 0.23; "what's": 0.23; 'up.': 0.26; 'hall': 0.28; 'subject:?': 0.29; 'mind.': 0.29; 'lists': 0.29; 'cc:addr:python.org': 0.30; 'peer': 0.30; 'talked': 0.30; 'ago': 0.31; 'programmers': 0.31; "didn't": 0.31; 'seem': 0.32; 'community': 0.32; 'someone': 0.33; 'list': 0.33; 'list.': 0.33; 'things': 0.33; 'however,': 0.34; 'majority': 0.34; 'there': 0.35; 'languages.': 0.35; 'languages': 0.35; 'using': 0.35; 'charset:us-ascii': 0.36; 'something': 0.37; 'change': 0.37; 'tool': 0.38; 'mailing': 0.38; 'but': 0.38; 'holding': 0.38; 'subject:: ': 0.38; 'some': 0.38; 'trouble': 0.39; 'called': 0.39; 'header:Mime-Version:1': 0.39; 'got': 0.39; 'house': 0.60; 'your': 0.60; 'header:Message-Id:1': 0.62; 'received:208': 0.62; 'you.': 0.62; 'closed': 0.62; 'love': 0.62; 'url:net': 0.63; 'ever': 0.64; 'direction.': 0.65; 'interest': 0.65; 'here': 0.66; 'share': 0.67; 'it)': 0.67; 'teachers,': 0.67; 'afraid': 0.72; 'automatic': 0.73; 'door': 0.73; 'spoke': 0.73; 'kingdom': 0.78; 'accused': 0.84; 'bordering': 0.84; 'democracy': 0.84; 'guts': 0.84; 'parts,': 0.84; 'remarks': 0.84; 'subject:Why': 0.84; 'subject:choose': 0.84; 'subject:its': 0.84 Date: Tue, 24 May 2011 13:22:13 -0400 From: "D'Arcy J.M. Cain" To: "Octavian Rasnita" Subject: Re: Why did Quora choose Python for its development? In-Reply-To: References: <80d59383-36a3-4744-85c4-1a0577f1d3a6@dr5g2000vbb.googlegroups.com> <9CDC4B2CD1F445E994119A50F65155DF@teddy> <12225671E9654FECB49613D915FAEC19@teddy> <21A740B7AC6644248476DFADDF726C73@octavian> <629DAC3611EA49B0A36BCF70151CDE2F@octavian> <87sjs44qyk.fsf@castleamber.com> <20110524060927.778a4a6a.darcy@druid.net> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.0 (GTK+ 2.24.4; i686-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: python-list@python.org X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Message-ID: Lines: 50 NNTP-Posting-Host: 82.94.164.166 X-Trace: 1306257740 news.xs4all.nl 49046 [::ffff:82.94.164.166]:43433 X-Complaints-To: abuse@xs4all.nl Xref: x330-a1.tempe.blueboxinc.net comp.lang.python:6161 On Tue, 24 May 2011 19:10:56 +0300 "Octavian Rasnita" wrote: > > If I was even considering using Perl, this one exchange would send me > > screaming in the opposite direction. > > If you didn't consider to change the language you prefer it means > that you are closed minded and use to fell in love with the tools you Now you are just bordering on rudeness. I never made any disparaging remarks about you. I only talked about a tool that you seem to like and I don't. In fact, I did consider and investigate Perl many years ago along with may other languages before I settled on Python. I didn't like it then and I don't like it now. However, I have never called someone "close minded" for preferring a different tool to me. > Don't make me tell here how many things I don't like in Perl. Trust me, there is no need. > I use to tell those things on Perl mailing lists and make upset their Good for you. I also have talked about things in Python that I don't like on this list. No one has ever accused me of being afraid to speak my mind. That facet of my personality has got me in a lot of trouble in my life from parents, teachers, bosses and I have even been known to speak out against the police while they were holding automatic rifles to my head. I doubt that there will ever be enough peer pressure on a mailing list to trump that. > Similarly, if you don't like something in Perl, why don't you tell > them what you don't like to the Perl programmers community and not just > have the guts to tell that in a group where the majority share your > preferences. Because I am not a missionary. Someone came to my house and told me why their way was better so I spoke up. Same thing when the JW come to my front door but I have no interest in going to their Kingdom Hall to tell them why they are wrong. > I came here on the list to find good things about Python and to learn > some things and use its good parts, and not to hear bashing about other > programming languages. Same here but someone (I don't even know who started it) felt that it was necessary to tell us all why their language was better. -- D'Arcy J.M. 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